Top 40 Music on CD Forum : Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 29 Apr 2026 18:09:03 +0000 Sat, 11 Oct 2025 13:38:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=970 <![CDATA[Top 40 Music on CD Forum]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : Brian, hello.Thank you for posting...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=67365&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#67365 Author: Kevincafe1966
Subject: 970
Posted: 11 October 2025 at 1:38pm

Brian, hello.

Thank you for posting about this new release. I just pre-ordered my copy. 
]]> Sat, 11 Oct 2025 13:38:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=67365&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#67365 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : Looks like we&#039;ll finally...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=67360&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#67360 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 970
Posted: 10 October 2025 at 4:52pm

Looks like we'll finally be getting the mono 45 version of "Both Sides Now" in December...

https://realgonemusic.com/products/judy-collins-the-60s-singles-cd?rs_oid_rd=441900595174794

Edited by Brian W. - 10 October 2025 at 4:52pm]]> Fri, 10 Oct 2025 16:52:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=67360&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#67360 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : MMathews wrote:I recently did...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43924&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43924 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 970
Posted: 26 June 2015 at 5:27pm

Originally posted by MMathews MMathews wrote:

I recently did a synch-test on
this one to verify the
"Wildflowers" LP version / "Forever" Anthology do
indeed
match the 45. They do.
The main difference tho is the 45 version is sped
up
quite a bit from the LP, and the 45 has more reverb
than
the LP, a common difference in the 60's.

Ed, the easiest way to spot the re-recorded vocal
version
that appeared on the vinyl "Colors Of The Day, Best
Of"
and the FIRST issue of that CD is in the 2nd or 3rd
chorus she says "...from give and take..."



And that version also appeared on a fvew other
albums like Freedon Rock (Warner Special
Productions) as above stated by SmokinTom Gary
mentioned, to tie this all up. I read to make it
even more co nfusing that both verisons have
appeared on the album that started it all, on
"Wildflowers", with "From win and lose" being on
all releases actually but Amazon.com for the CD
version having the clip with the "Freedom
Rock","Colors of Day",etc. lyrics ("From Give and
Take").

That and the business about the later recording
only on the first CD release of "Colors of the day
with the original one replacing it really makes it
confusing..

Also more and more prominent drums in the later
verison as the song ends..]]> Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:27:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43924&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43924 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : MMathews wrote:I recently did...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43923&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43923 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 970
Posted: 26 June 2015 at 5:26pm

Originally posted by MMathews MMathews wrote:

I recently did a synch-test on
this one to verify the
"Wildflowers" LP version / "Forever" Anthology do
indeed
match the 45. They do.
The main difference tho is the 45 version is sped
up
quite a bit from the LP, and the 45 has more reverb
than
the LP, a common difference in the 60's.

Ed, the easiest way to spot the re-recorded vocal
version
that appeared on the vinyl "Colors Of The Day, Best
Of"
and the FIRST issue of that CD is in the 2nd or 3rd
chorus she says "...from give and take..."

And on om Gary mentioned, to tie this all up. I
read to make it even more co nfusing that both
verisons have appeared on the album that started
it all, on "Wildflowers", with "From win and lose"
being on all releases actually but Amazon.com for
the CD version having the clip with the "Freedom
Rock","Colors of Day",etc. lyrics ("From Give and
Take").

That and the business about the later recording
only on the first CD release of "Colors of the day
with the original one replacing it really makes it
confusing..

Also more and more prominent drums in the later
verison as the song ends..]]> Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:26:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43923&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43923 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : Smokin&#039; TomGary wrote:There...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43922&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43922 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 970
Posted: 26 June 2015 at 5:21pm

Originally posted by Smokin' TomGary Smokin' TomGary wrote:

There are two different
versions of the song. I remember the "Wildflowers"
version being played on WABC in New York. The
"Wildflowers" CD released in 1987 (7559-60655-2)
has less high end on "Both Sides Now" than the same
versions on "Forever an anthology" Disc 2 (7559-
62104-2) or "The Very Best of Judy Collins" (8122-
74374-2-8). The 1987 CD may be one of those dubbed
from the LP tape master.

The other version appears on "Freedom Rock" Disc 2
(Sessions/Warner Special Products OPCD-4510) and TM
Century GoldDisc #308. Both have an actual time of
3:11. Definitely a different recording with Judy's
vocal quite different than on the Wildflowers LP.

ANd as MMathews said, on "Colors of the Day, Best
of" (but only on the first CD version).]]> Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:21:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43922&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43922 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : MMathews wrote:I recently did...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43889&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43889 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 970
Posted: 20 June 2015 at 10:05pm

Originally posted by MMathews MMathews wrote:

I recently did a synch-test on
this one to verify the
"Wildflowers" LP version / "Forever" Anthology do
indeed
match the 45. They do.
The main difference tho is the 45 version is sped
up
quite a bit from the LP, and the 45 has more reverb
than
the LP, a common difference in the 60's.

Ed, the easiest way to spot the re-recorded vocal
version
that appeared on the vinyl "Colors Of The Day, Best
Of"
and the FIRST issue of that CD is in the 2nd or 3rd
chorus she says "...from give and take..."
In the hit version she only says "win and lose" on
both
choruses.
Hope that helps.


How about the Spun Gold reissue (timed at 3:14)?]]> Sat, 20 Jun 2015 22:05:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43889&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43889 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : Thanks, Jim. I had a feeling...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43597&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43597 Author: MMathews
Subject: 970
Posted: 11 May 2015 at 2:24pm

Thanks, Jim. I had a feeling that was the case. MM]]> Mon, 11 May 2015 14:24:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43597&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43597 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : Markie, I just re-timed my &#034;EKM...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43593&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43593 Author: jimct
Subject: 970
Posted: 10 May 2015 at 11:05pm

Markie, I just re-timed my "EKM 45639A-CP-1" deadwax stock 45 copy for
you (as well as my "EK-45639A-SP" deadwax stock 45 copy.) Both timing
results came back exactly the same: listed (3:14); actual (3:11).

Seems like the turntable that furnished you with the (3:09)-timed dub does
indeed have speed issues...]]> Sun, 10 May 2015 23:05:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43593&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43593 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : I need to double-check something...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43586&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43586 Author: MMathews
Subject: 970
Posted: 10 May 2015 at 5:33pm

I need to double-check something about this 45. I have 2
reference dubs from different people and they run
different speeds.
One runs 3:11, matches the database listed time and has
the deadwax# EK-45639A-SP.

The other runs MUCH faster in pitch, yet fades at the
same point and therefore only runs 3:09. The deadwax
info provided is EKM 45639A-CP-1.

Jim, since one of your 45's has that deadwax#, can you
double check the run time on that one pressing? If it
comes out 3:11, then I'll know this other dub I have was
dubbed at the wrong speed.
MM   ]]> Sun, 10 May 2015 17:33:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=43586&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#43586 <![CDATA[Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" : MMathews wrote:I recently did...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=39755&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#39755 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 970
Posted: 20 November 2013 at 10:17pm

Originally posted by MMathews MMathews wrote:

I recently did a synch-test on this one to verify the
"Wildflowers" LP version / "Forever" Anthology do indeed
match the 45. They do.
The main difference tho is the 45 version is sped up
quite a bit from the LP, and the 45 has more reverb than
the LP, a common difference in the 60's.

Ed, the easiest way to spot the re-recorded vocal version
that appeared on the vinyl "Colors Of The Day, Best Of"
and the FIRST issue of that CD is in the 2nd or 3rd
chorus she says "...from give and take..."
In the hit version she only says "win and lose" on both
choruses.
Hope that helps.

It's on the third chorus.:-) Different mix of instrumentation near the end,too. And it's the same situation as only ONE other big hit song, The Guess Who's one from the following year and early 1970-"No Time",first, much longer 5:35 version on "Canned Wheat" then 3:45 hit version on both single released in December 1969 and starting a run on the charts till around April 1970, joined on the way by its presence on the "American Woman" LP.

Only different between the two songs is "Both Sides Now" is practically the same length..if you'll pardon the LP version quote "give and take" :D a few seconds, not a difference in length like the Guess Who song [two minute difference there], likewise two different versions on one album each a year later. Oh..and one other difference is the Judy Collins song "Both Sides Now"'s single was from the FIRST LP, "Wildflowers", where the Guess Who's "No Time" came as a right before the next LP that the group did, "American Woman".

Edited by Steve Carras]]> Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:17:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=970&PID=39755&title=judy-collins-both-sides-now#39755