https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 07:59:51 +0000 Fri, 17 Dec 2021 06:39:03 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9728 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59805&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59805 Author: Hykker
Subject: 9728
Posted: 17 December 2021 at 6:39am

I always leave off "the" for artist names, not sure who Kid Laroi is, but anything by the Weeknd I have is filed under W. Likewise Flock Of
Seagulls is under F. YMMV]]> Fri, 17 Dec 2021 06:39:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59805&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59805 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59797&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59797 Author: VWestlife
Subject: 9728
Posted: 16 December 2021 at 3:59pm

iTunes skips over The when alphabetizing, which is fine, but it also skips over A/An, which just seems wrong to me. When I want to find A Flock of Seagulls and A Taste of Honey, my brain thinks of the letter A, not F or T. Luckily with iTunes you can override its sorting by typing in how you want it to sort an entry.

]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2021 15:59:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59797&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59797 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59792&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59792 Author: jono
Subject: 9728
Posted: 15 December 2021 at 7:35pm

When I first started organizing my songs in a database, I used the same
alphabetizing method that Joel Whitburn used in my old Billboard Top 100
book, probably from around 1988. That way I could kind of keep track of
what I had vs. what was on my wish list. So as far as artists go, it’s generally
the same as Andy a couple posts above. Song titles have just been straight
forward, however.

I’ve found over the years that this is what I’m used to, so really I don’t have
any plans to change it. I should add that when a group comes up like 1910
Fruitgum Co., I tell iTunes (in particular) to sort as Nineteen-Ten Fruitgum
Co., as that way it still appears under the N’s, but displays the proper group
name.

Jon O.]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:35:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59792&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59792 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59789&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59789 Author: Hykker
Subject: 9728
Posted: 15 December 2021 at 6:40am

PopArchivist wrote: Song title names are as they are. I don't shorten Rose when the title of the song is The Rose. Title of songs are what they are.

I have an Excel file I use to keep a database of compilation LPs & CDs (and the remaining small amount that's on a reel and hasn't been
digitized yet), and titles are a bit of a mess. I began this database 30+ years ago when drive space was expensive, so the "title"
field size was set to a value that would accommodate most songs, but really long titles needed to get abbreviated. Same goes for
artist, though to a lesser extent.
Alas, the program I used for this initial database wouldn't run on anything newer than XP, so I had to import it into an Excel file (I
didn't really want to have to learn Access). As time has permitted, I've updated entries, but it's an ongoing project.]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:40:54 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59789&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59789 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59787&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59787 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9728
Posted: 14 December 2021 at 2:09pm

Scanner wrote: English teachers would likely cringe at even proposing this question...but, how do you alphabetize songs that begin with "A," "An," or "The?" Despite grammar rules, I have always included those articles as part of the titles. So, "A Little More Love" is under "A," not "L," on my song lists. This can help distinguish between two songs with the same title. Andy Gibb's "An Everlasting Love" is not the same song as Carl Carlton's "Everlasting Love." It also can better define what the song is about. If "The Rose" was just "Rose," is Bette Midler singing about a flower or someone named Rose? To me, song titles just seem incomplete without the article included. Curious whether I am the only "rebel" to do this!

I like tagging like this

James Taylor - Up On The Roof

I would not tag Taylor, James - Up On The Roof. I tag by billboard position # and don't put last name first.

I would tag The Beatles as Beatles. The word The is left off unless THE is essential to the name and not a group (The-Kid Laroi).

In the case of a group from 2000-2001 called Dream, you have to add the THE back in to the artist in the mid to late 2000's who calls himself The-Dream as well. So clearly Dream and The-Dream are needed to differentiate.

Latest is The-Kid Laroi. The in this case is not the name of his group but an individual name so it stays.

I also put Featuring rather than Feat its just the way I tag. That is just the way I do things.

Song title names are as they are. I don't shorten Rose when the title of the song is The Rose. Title of songs are what they are.

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:09:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59787&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59787 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59786&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59786 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9728
Posted: 14 December 2021 at 11:16am

chendagam wrote: I agree and always include the article. I have more trouble with Huey Lewis and the News going under "H" or "L." Same goes for Steve Miller...should "he" go under the M for his last name or is that the name of his band? Hmmmmmm.

When I was getting a list together on computer, I used to use the style of [Lewis, Huey and the News] or [Miller, Steve (Band)]. the brackets were not used in the database.

However, inevitably I would need to make a notation for the folks who were also using the database in cases like [Steely Dan] not [Dan, Steely] and especially,
[England Dan & John Ford Coley]. Whew! ]]> Tue, 14 Dec 2021 11:16:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59786&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59786 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59785&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59785 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 9728
Posted: 14 December 2021 at 9:32am

For my DJ computer I have always set up titles using the
"classic" method such as:

Midler, Bette - Rose, The

Gibb, Andy - Everlasting Love, An

Clark, Dave, Five - I Like It Like That

Petty, Tom, & The Heartbreakers - Free Fallin'

Whatever works for yourself is probably the best
solution, but I will admit if other people are looking at
your files it's best to let them know your method-of-
alphabetization because things can get confusing to the
lay person when one is dealing with acts like 'Marshall
Tucker Band' when there's no member in the band with that
name...

Andy]]> Tue, 14 Dec 2021 09:32:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59785&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59785 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59783&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59783 Author: Hykker
Subject: 9728
Posted: 14 December 2021 at 6:36am

I don't file songs by title, but my method of filing by artist varies between physical media and audio
files.

LPs, 12" singles & CDs are by artist; last name first.
Audio files are by artist; first name first (and when known, in folders by year).

Vinyl compilations are by general era of music contained. CD comps are alphabetical by title.

Then for a total curve, 45s are filed chronologically (with novelty and Christmas songs filed
separately in no particular order).


Edited by Hykker]]> Tue, 14 Dec 2021 06:36:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59783&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59783 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59780&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59780 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 9728
Posted: 14 December 2021 at 3:50am

I label the songs differently than that. So for example

Everlasting Love (An)
Rose (The)
Little More Love (A)


Andy Gibb's title would be different than Carl Carlton's, which would simply be:

Everlasting Love

I have found that when I make playlists in iTunes, it ignores the "The" or "A" and alphabetizes it under the fisrt letter of the next word.]]> Tue, 14 Dec 2021 03:50:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59780&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59780 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9728&PID=59779&title=alphabetizing-song-titles#59779 Author: sriv94
Subject: 9728
Posted: 13 December 2021 at 9:41pm

I used to feel that way, but my library got large enough that it became a lot more of a chore. Now I live with it,
even if it's technically "wrong." :)

/And it gets worse if I try to do it with numbers.

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