https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:29:12 +0000 Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:08:43 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9762 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60491&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60491 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9762
Posted: 18 March 2022 at 10:08am

I will agree with the comment that Hykker made about the classic rock stations abandoning a lot of the music that (Originally), made them popular.

Yesterday, I stumbled across a series of CDR needle drop discs at a local used record store. Apparently, a local guy did his best at trying to preserve a lot
of good old classics from his vinyl collection, or at least be able to listen more easily on CD. I'm guessing he assembled this set of discs 20 - 25 years ago.

On the collection are tracks I haven't heard in decades. Some I don't even remember, but that's not too uncommon these days.

I remember a song that has a different thread here called D.O.A. by Bloodrock. I think there might be another track in the set as well. What I didn't know was,
there must be an edited version that was played on the radio. I don't think this is one of those songs that deserved all 8+ minutes to the airwaves. If they
did play all 8 minutes, I would be surprised. I enjoyed this track as a teen, but can't bring myself to listen to it as an adult. ]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:08:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60491&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60491 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60488&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60488 Author: Hykker
Subject: 9762
Posted: 18 March 2022 at 6:12am

PopArchivist wrote: I think the issue here is more what would you cut? The long intro, the middle section or the end? It's no different then taking the Mona Lisa and dividing into 3 parts and removing the middle part and still calling it Mona Lisa.

As one who's tried, STH is not a song that easily lends itself to editing. It's not your standard verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus
structure where you can remove a verse, shorten the bridge or fade it early. About the only part of the song that lends itself to editing is
the intro, and shortening that still leaves you with a very long song. I don't think I've ever heard a house edit of this anywhere,
including the WFIL one mentioned upthread.

As to whether the song is somehow "sacred" is an individual decision, but to my ears the song is fine as it is. Any station I worked at
generally dayparted really long songs out of AM drive (and sometimes PM drive as well).
Kind of moot today since it's 50 years old and even classic rock stations are downplaying that era.
]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2022 06:12:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60488&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60488 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60487&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60487 Author: kaqueno
Subject: 9762
Posted: 18 March 2022 at 4:56am

"Stairway to Heaven" It's one of those songs that a person
can listen to over and over again despite its long duration
of 8:00 minutes, although I must confess that it would have
been nice if the record label released a shorter version at
the time!!!

Jody Thornton: your version of STH is very good,
congratulations


cheers

Edited by kaqueno]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2022 04:56:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60487&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60487 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60483&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60483 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9762
Posted: 17 March 2022 at 7:16pm

NightAire wrote: I figured this board was the LAST place I would hear judgement on edits.

When the label and the artist/band authorize them no judgement. Anyone can slice and dice a .wav file and come up with an edit or fade out early Hey Jude if they want.

I think the issue here is more what would you cut? The long intro, the middle section or the end? It's no different then taking the Mona Lisa and dividing into 3 parts and removing the middle part and still calling it Mona Lisa.

Not saying this edit you refer to isn't legit. Just saying that I have to accept Layla's edit because it was released as a 45. I have to accept Light My Fire's edit because it was released as a 45. The label edited each one and butchered them to under 3 minutes.

Guess what is still intact over 50 years later? Stairway to Heaven. Nuff said.

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:16:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60483&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60483 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60478&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60478 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 9762
Posted: 17 March 2022 at 5:13am

NightAire wrote: I figured this board was the LAST place I would hear judgement on edits. :-D I've thought for years that the intro on Stairway could easily be chopped down without doing any real musical damage. If you've ever done a morning show and put this on at 7 AM you know how painfully long that intro is. While the full length version is my preference too, I do think an edit could be pretty easily done without completely destroying the flow of the song. I understand the song did perfectly fine without an edit but it could have REALLY been burnt on the radio if they would have (tastefully) edited it down to a more manageable length. Having said all that... I've never seen or heard any edits before the YouTube video linked above. :-)

I was going to say, regarding judgement of edits, that surprised me a bit here. All I wanted to hear was if anyone knew the details of the WFIL edit from the song's original charting days. Then I got what appeared to be moral outrage about how sacred the song was and should never be edited - ahem, again not the question.

I posted in another thread I found regarding this, and showed a way I felt that you could edit the song without much damage to the flow. Here's what I came up with awhile ago. I was saying in that thread that you'd have to imagine never hearing the song before this. Imagine if this was the first way you've heard it.

My Attempt at a Stairway Edit
]]> Thu, 17 Mar 2022 05:13:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60478&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60478 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60474&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60474 Author: NightAire
Subject: 9762
Posted: 16 March 2022 at 8:59pm

I figured this board was the LAST place I would hear judgement on edits. :-D

I've thought for years that the intro on Stairway could easily be chopped down without doing any real musical damage. If you've ever done a morning show and put this on at 7 AM you know how painfully long that intro is.

While the full length version is my preference too, I do think an edit could be pretty easily done without completely destroying the flow of the song. I understand the song did perfectly fine without an edit but it could have REALLY been burnt on the radio if they would have (tastefully) edited it down to a more manageable length.

Having said all that... I've never seen or heard any edits before the YouTube video linked above. :-)]]> Wed, 16 Mar 2022 20:59:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60474&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60474 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60430&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60430 Author: Hykker
Subject: 9762
Posted: 10 March 2022 at 5:57am

davidlg1971 wrote: As for Hey Jude, I've always loved the song. But - I'm just not down to hear the neverending nah nahs anymore. So about 15 years ago I created a 5-minute or so edit of the track that includes the best drum fills and scats from McCartney. I haven't heard the full version since. Sacrilege, I know!

I dunno about that, many stations faded it early back in '68, while there was no directive from the PD one way or the
other, the jocks at the station I worked weekends at back then usually did. Great for backtiming!

]]> Thu, 10 Mar 2022 05:57:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60430&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60430 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60426&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60426 Author: davidlg1971
Subject: 9762
Posted: 09 March 2022 at 1:53pm

garye wrote: Have edited that song, "Fool In The Rain" and "All My Love" with no issues to anyone who hears them. Only a handful of songs might get the masses rising up besides Stairway. "Hey Jude", "MacArthur's Park" from Richard Harris, and maybe a few others from the 60's and 70's that might have a "hands off" approach!

I too have an edit of Fool In The Rain, my favorite Zep track - shortening the guitar solo a bit, and eliminating a couple of the repeated "light of the love" phrases at the end.

As for Hey Jude, I've always loved the song. But - I'm just not down to hear the neverending nah nahs anymore. So about 15 years ago I created a 5-minute or so edit of the track that includes the best drum fills and scats from McCartney. I haven't heard the full version since.

Sacrilege, I know!

But - then I finally heard the 'Love' mix, and that became my go-to; I absolutely love the breakdown and interpolations at the end, particularly the bass. If that mix contained all the verses, I'd never listen to the original mix again.]]> Wed, 09 Mar 2022 13:53:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60426&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60426 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60424&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60424 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 9762
Posted: 09 March 2022 at 9:29am

Years ago, I played the 5:25 version of Paradise By The
Dashboard Light at a wedding and got deer in the headlights
look as they were thrown off by the edits. From that point on
I only played the 7:57 version. ]]> Wed, 09 Mar 2022 09:29:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60424&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60424 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60422&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60422 Author: garye
Subject: 9762
Posted: 08 March 2022 at 11:04pm

"Stairway To Heaven" is one of those songs that is so
ingrained in our 70's brain would be hard to hear any
edited version.
"Kashmir" is a song that you can do an edit and not loose
the flow, while popular, is not ingrained like Stairway is.
Have edited that song, "Fool In The Rain" and "All My Love"
with no issues to anyone who hears them.
Only a handful of songs might get the masses rising up
besides Stairway.
"Hey Jude", "MacArthur's Park" from Richard Harris, and
maybe a few others from the 60's and 70's that might have a
"hands off" approach!]]> Tue, 08 Mar 2022 23:04:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9762&PID=60422&title=led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven#60422