https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 04:17:39 +0000 Sun, 11 Sep 2022 13:37:27 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9860 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61793&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61793 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9860
Posted: 11 September 2022 at 1:37pm

AutumnAarilyn wrote:     The first link has 10 seconds before the needle is dropped so the vocal phrase will appear 10 seconds later.

That's just too easy! I didn't pay any attention to that intro, and totally explains it.
I was probably thinking the ad before the song was still running.]]> Sun, 11 Sep 2022 13:37:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61793&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61793 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61790&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61790 Author: AutumnAarilyn
Subject: 9860
Posted: 10 September 2022 at 6:39pm

There's some conflating of issues that may not be
apparent at first glance.

The first link has 10 seconds before the needle is
dropped so the vocal phrase will appear 10 seconds later.

Nobody really pulled the wrong tape at RCA for this
difference. On the album, one version was cut originally
and then when the single was made they pasted what sounds
like the vocals from the first pass of the chorus. Keep
in mind this was done in 1985 and not some pulling for a
greatest hits decades later.

There's some parallels here with the discussions we had
about Dan Seals' "Bop" and even the recent "Superfreak"
thread where there was a successful dubbing of one line.
When Earth, Wind, and Fire did their rhythm guitar, it
was dubbed so that there wouldn't be alternate phrasing
and little deviations on a part that would be repeated
and almost used to keep time.

When they brought Kenny in he probably did several vocals
for each line. Artists don't really sung the song in
complete takes. Considering this a duet more has to be
"pieced" together. If you watch the video of the making
of "We are the World", that's pretty much how much vocals
get recorded. It looks segmented because there are so
many different singers but many songs especially pop ones
go down in that fashion.

When Kenny and Dolly sung in unison on this and "Islands
in the stream", I thought Kenny always got turned down a
bit but Dolly would stand out against anyone when singing
a phrase together.

Edited by AutumnAarilyn]]> Sat, 10 Sep 2022 18:39:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61790&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61790 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61787&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61787 Author: Scanner
Subject: 9860
Posted: 10 September 2022 at 2:11pm

I wonder sometimes when it comes time to include a
previously released song on a new record (compilation, re-
release, etc.) whether someone at the record company
inadvertently pulls an alternate take, includes this
version on the new album and the "new" version becomes the
version that is widely available. Take this song - just
speculating, but did someone at RCA pull another version
when this song was added to a Parton or Rogers compilation
or made available for digital purchase or streaming and
this is now the version that everyone thinks is the
original. If Kenny did not record two takes of the song,
someone then edited the second chorus to sound like the
first on the 45.

Just the type of mystery that keeps this board going! :-)]]> Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:11:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61787&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61787 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61784&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61784 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9860
Posted: 10 September 2022 at 12:53pm

One thing I noticed was the timing of the second chorus. The "You know I love you too" part.

On the first link it shows up at 2:35 as mentioned by Scanner.

On the second link it is nearer to 2:25. So, I guess there's some changes in the early parts of the song that are different too.]]> Sat, 10 Sep 2022 12:53:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61784&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61784 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61765&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61765 Author: AutumnAarilyn
Subject: 9860
Posted: 08 September 2022 at 4:50pm

Could they have just dubbed the vocal from the first swipe
of the chorus? I actually like that album version better
but I do remember the 45. Quite often labels will redo the
vocals upon release of a single.

If you really listen to this song it's really an R&B tune.

Edited by AutumnAarilyn]]> Thu, 08 Sep 2022 16:50:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61765&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61765 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61762&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61762 Author: Scanner
Subject: 9860
Posted: 08 September 2022 at 2:28pm

I recall hearing this version back when:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDB_DGCGuAk

But, on numerous compilations released since 1985 from
both artists that contain this song, this version is
used:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ7qTLRdYTw

The difference that I hear is minor - in the second verse
around 2:35, Kenny sings "You know I love you too"
differently. On the album version, "too" is stretched
into two notes versus one on the 45.

Is there anything else different between these versions
that I am not hearing? And, of course, I must ask why
two versions were released. ]]> Thu, 08 Sep 2022 14:28:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9860&PID=61762&title=o-t-dolly-kenny-real-love#61762