https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:08:49 +0000 Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:29:00 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9876 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=65009&title=tidal-store-closing#65009 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 9876
Posted: 28 July 2024 at 6:29pm

I recently started a trial membership to Tidal.

Their website has the following in their FAQ:

CAN I STILL ACCESS MUSIC IN MQA OR 360 REALITY AUDIO ON TIDAL? No. As of July 24, 2024, music in the MQA or 360 Reality Audio formats is no longer accessible via any TIDAL application or integration. For stereo sound, FLAC was chosen as the format we’ll support going forward because it is open source—meaning any artist can deliver their music in high quality directly to TIDAL without the involvement of a third party. This makes it easier for their fans to experience music in the highest possible sound quality on all their devices. For immersive sound, Dolby Atmos was chosen as the format we will support going forward due to the number of compatible devices, catalog availability, and artist adoption of the format. Through our continued partnership with Dolby, we’ve given artists the opportunity to expand on their sonic vision, allowing their fans to experience their music like never before.

For those of you that remember MQA, it was a hyped format that claimed to give you better sound in 16 bits than was possible with conventional 16-bit audio. It was all BS. And, it turns out, it was lossy!

In null tests with Tidal-downloaded files, I've noticed artifacts that sound just like the artifacts you hear from lossy files. (Like comparing a 320 kbps mp3 to its lossless counterpart.) The artifacts show up only when I'm comparing a Tidal-downloaded file to a file that clearly doesn't have MQA (like a CD rip, a Qobuz-downloaded file, a TM Century file, a Promo Only file, or a Hitmakers file).

As I type this, we're after the July 24 deadline, and I noticed the artifacts from a file I downloaded just today.

I strongly doubt that Tidal will go through every file on its website to revert it to its non-MQA original state, if that's even possible.

Bottom line: I no longer trust Tidal for lossless files.]]> Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:29:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=65009&title=tidal-store-closing#65009 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=62149&title=tidal-store-closing#62149 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 9876
Posted: 14 November 2022 at 1:02am

AutumnAarilyn wrote: Aren't labels cannibalizing their sales by making downloads "unavailable" sort of like they did with vinyl in 1989, cd singles in the 90's (in the US anyway), and the current lack of licensing older material reputable third partiesfor cds. This is what happens when power is in the hands of a few after all those mergers.

Yes. And sometimes on qobuz, I'll find a song I want to buy, but then it says
"download unavailable". It's only available for streaming. Then there are
cases where a song isn't available for sale on qobuz, 7D, Tidal, iTunes, and
literally the only place I can find it is Spotify. So I have to record it off there
instead of buying the file from qobuz, etc. Very frustrating. Other singles on
qobuz are, say, $1.79 - but from me they get 1 stream. Doesn't make a lot of
$ sense to me.]]> Mon, 14 Nov 2022 01:02:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=62149&title=tidal-store-closing#62149 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=62148&title=tidal-store-closing#62148 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 9876
Posted: 14 November 2022 at 12:59am

Brian W. wrote: Tidal streaming will still remain open. But, yes, 7Digital seems to be on its last legs... they've lost Sony and Warner.

Brian, did you ever read why Sony and Warner stopped making their lossless
files available to 7 Digital, yet still to qobuz? And when did this happen? Both
labels at the same time?]]> Mon, 14 Nov 2022 00:59:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=62148&title=tidal-store-closing#62148 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=62000&title=tidal-store-closing#62000 Author: AutumnAarilyn
Subject: 9876
Posted: 22 October 2022 at 11:41am

Aren't labels cannibalizing their sales by making downloads
"unavailable" sort of like they did with vinyl in 1989, cd
singles in the 90's (in the US anyway), and the current
lack of licensing older material reputable third partiesfor
cds. This is what happens when power is in the hands of a
few after all those mergers.

Edited by AutumnAarilyn]]> Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:41:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=62000&title=tidal-store-closing#62000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61999&title=tidal-store-closing#61999 Author: Paul C
Subject: 9876
Posted: 22 October 2022 at 6:55am

As an indication of how few digital downloads are being
sold these days, the song currently at #3 on Billboard's
Digital Sales chart is "Everywhere" by Fleetwood Mac,
currently being used in a car commercial. It sold 5000
digital downloads last week. In a country of 335,000,000
people, you only need to sell 5000 digital downloads to
have the third best-selling download in the country.]]> Sat, 22 Oct 2022 06:55:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61999&title=tidal-store-closing#61999 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61998&title=tidal-store-closing#61998 Author: edtop40
Subject: 9876
Posted: 21 October 2022 at 3:19am

Klaus Schwab, my hero!, Douche]]> Fri, 21 Oct 2022 03:19:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61998&title=tidal-store-closing#61998 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61996&title=tidal-store-closing#61996 Author: AutumnAarilyn
Subject: 9876
Posted: 20 October 2022 at 8:57pm

"By 2030, you'll own nothing, and be happy." -Klaus Schwab

Not me!]]> Thu, 20 Oct 2022 20:57:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61996&title=tidal-store-closing#61996 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61995&title=tidal-store-closing#61995 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9876
Posted: 20 October 2022 at 5:24pm

Scott Young wrote: I use the Tidable Music Converter to download lossless from Tidal. It was a one time buyout. I'll be disappointed if Tidal finds a way to block Tidable from working.

The fact you can still download previous purchases through January means to me that its still up there just the pages to download from are gone.]]> Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:24:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61995&title=tidal-store-closing#61995 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61993&title=tidal-store-closing#61993 Author: Scott Young
Subject: 9876
Posted: 20 October 2022 at 4:48pm

I use the Tidable Music Converter to
download lossless from Tidal. It was a one
time buyout. I'll be disappointed if Tidal
finds a way to block Tidable from working.]]> Thu, 20 Oct 2022 16:48:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61993&title=tidal-store-closing#61993 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61992&title=tidal-store-closing#61992 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 9876
Posted: 20 October 2022 at 12:53pm

It seems to be moving in that direction, not only with music, but with home video. But I don't think Tidal is closing the store division with any grand scheme in mind... I think it's just not profitable. And I think what's killing 7Digital is
probably Qobuz.

And I also think that's what's behind the whole move toward streaming-only: the labels simply make more money off streaming. A sale, they make a profit one time. Streaming, they make money every time you play the song. It's all about money.

With home video, Disney in particular is being very stingy with what it releases in physical format for the past couple years. They want everything to just be on Disney Plus.




Edited by Brian W.]]> Thu, 20 Oct 2022 12:53:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9876&PID=61992&title=tidal-store-closing#61992