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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TomDiehl1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2024 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

Thanks. I'm surprised there hasn't
been a DES version made
of this song. After all, it was a really big hit - it did
peak at #2 for 3 weeks. But maybe DES is too new. Or...
like the stereo versions made of the Byrds' "Turn! Turn!
Turn!" & "Mr. Tambourine Man" circa 1990 (without DES),
there must be some kind of multi-track of this (at least,
I'd think) which could have been used to make a true
stereo
and not an e-stereo.)


The BellSound tape purge in the 70s destroyed any chances
of a multi still existing.
Live in stereo.
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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:



My recommendation

Go with Rhino's Best Of The Girl Groups Vol. 2 (1990). Yay, mono!


I'm sure I speak for many board members here when I say how much I continue to appreciate and treasure your highly exhaustive and helpful analysis when it comes to determining the best sounding audio source for a particular song available on CD, Ron!

Now, in this particular instance, I own a 1993 pressing of the Billboard Top Rock'n'Roll Hits - 1965 CD on Rhino 70626. If I'm understanding your post correctly, you're essentially saying that this disc contains the same mastering transfer as what's on the Rhino Best Of The Girl Groups Vol. 2 CD, right?

If that's the case, then allow me to highly recommend what I believe to be an even superior-sounding CD source of The Toys' "Lover's Concerto". If you don't yet have a copy, then you really need to check out The Toys' A Lover's Concerto/Attack CD on Sundazed 6034, which is mastered by longtime legendary audio engineer Bob Irwin. Let me tell you, "Lover's Concerto" on that disc not only runs at the correct single/album speed and length of 2:34, but was also mastered from a well-preserved first generation master. As a result, the overall audio clarity completely blows away that of what appears on the Billboard Top Rock'n'Roll Hits - 1965 disc! In fact, the latter actually sounds a tad grungy and distorted by comparison. The other benefit of owning the A Lover's Concerto/Attack CD on Sundazed is that it remains the lone CD title containing The Toys' other Top 40 hit "Attack", in addition to the group's other two Billboard Hot 100 chart entries "May My Heart Be Cast into Stone" and "Baby Toys". Anyway, just thought that some of you fellow audiophiles and Billboard chart completists might appreciate these tips!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2024 at 12:33am
Todd - I found a 12-track version on Qobuz which seems to be the full album without the two bonus tracks. I assume that it's the Sundazed mastering (released in 1994), but it doesn't say.

It does indeed sound better than the others. The difference isn't subtle, either. The high end is more crisp and the vocals do sound less grungy, especially in the last half of the song. The Sundazed version runs about 2.0% or 2.1% faster than the Rhino version, and runs about 2 or 3 beats shorter than the Rhino version.

Good call, Todd. I'm glad you pointed this one out for us.
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote EdisonLite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 January 2024 at 4:17am
I found the 12-track version of the album on Spotify at the link below. It seems
to be from 2004/2005 Warner, but sometimes those dates at the bottom aren't
correct. It can be heard here:

https://open.spotify.com/album/0FCivegJk8AAzoR1aWdPaW?
si=aAhiDZLsRxeC6vEXsO-GeQ

Does anyone know if this is the same as what's on the Sundazed CD minus the
2 bonus cuts?
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