Abba - The Name Of The Game

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   Thanks to assistance from my good friend Aaron, I've officially determined the 3:57 version of "The Name of the Game" appearing on ABBA's Best of: 20th Century Masters - The Millennium Collection CD is indeed the DJ 45 version but :05 longer.  So at long last we can put this one to rest!  Pat, since there've been a number of inquiries about this promo 45 version on CD, I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to individually note which CDs in the database run :05 longer than the DJ 45.  

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Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2008 at 4:54pm
	Thanks to assistance from my good friend Aaron, I've officially determined the 3:57 version of "The Name of the Game" appearing on ABBA's Best of: 20th Century Masters - The Millennium Collection CD is indeed the DJ 45 version but :05 longer. So at long last we can put this one to rest! Pat, since there've been a number of inquiries about this promo 45 version on CD, I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to individually note which CDs in the database run :05 longer than the DJ 45.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 140	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2008 at 10:26pm
	To provide further info, the promo 45 has one edit at the 2:03 mark and fades about :05 earlier than the longer version's fade. I'd be very curious to know how some of these slightly longer versions surface on CD. Is it possible that the engineer was instructed to fade it a little early as it was being recorded to the master stamper, hence a master tape with the correct length never really exists?

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 2008 at 6:51am
	I've wondered these very same questions myself, Aaron, because so often the fades at the end of 45 versions appearing on CD do not exactly match the fades on their respective vinyl 45 counterparts. Do the single masters usually contain the exact fade heard on their commercial single releases? Or do many single version masters come with fading instructions for engineers to manually perform when mastering for CD? Perhaps one of our resident audio engineer experts can help us answer this.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 55	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 2008 at 7:58am
	Is the edit you mentioned, Aaron, what brings the LP version down to it's 3:57 CD length, albeit that the 3:57 versions fade later than the promo 45?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 140	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 2008 at 11:08am
	Yes, if you make the one edit to the LP version but don't perform an early fade, you get very close to 3:57.

JL328 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 06 May 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote JL328 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 2017 at 12:08pm
	Does anybody know where the fade starts on the true 3:52 promo version? Does it start earlier than it does on the 3:57 cd versions or is the fadeout just elongated on those cd versions? Thanks.

Yah Shure Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Yah Shure Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2017 at 2:03pm
	JL, the fade starts at 3:39.264 and runs until 3:53.374, a total of 14.11 seconds. The final 2.4 seconds is barely audible.