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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I caught the end of AT40's year-end countdown for 1980 on
the Classic American Top 40 online station this morning and was reminded how Casey Kasem would compile the results differently than what was published in Billboard. For example, he played "Do That To Me One More Time" at #3, but Billboard ranked that at #5. ("Magic" was #3 per Billboard.) Does anyone know why AT40 diverged for this countdown annually and how they compiled their ranking (different time period, Top 40 vs. entire Hot 100, etc.)? |
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JMD1961 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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He didn't always deviate from Billboard. Only sometimes.
I found a website with more details. https://leemichaelwithers.tripod.com/at40_yearend.htm |
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FrankG ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 31 March 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thanks so much for that article - very interesting. I'd
love to know why the AT40 staff decided to switch back and forth between their own year-end list and Billboard's. |
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thanks for the quick response! I first listened to the
year-end countdown in 1978. I wondered why "You Light Up My Life" ranked at #3 when it spent its ten weeks at #1 in 1977. It was my introduction to the concept of a "chart year." (Years later, when I tracked down the 1977 year-end Billboard, I was stunned "Light" did not even make the year-end Top 100 at all!) I never realized just how inconsistent AT40 was with the methodology they used to count down the year-end top 100 records from year to year. |
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Vince ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 19 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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This is just my guess. What may have prompted AT40 to
compile their own year-end countdown for 1980 was Billboard (BB)'s weird survey period for their 1980 year- end pop singles chart. It ran from 10/6/1979 through 9/27/1980. It resulted in "Rise" making the list at #54 and "Another One Bites the Dust" and "Woman in Love" not being included. 1981 through 1984 had similar situations although the BB's survey periods began roughly the first week of November and ran through the end of October, or mid-November for 1984. AT40 probably went back to using BB's YE survey in 1985, because BB started counting songs entire chart runs, even it began before the survey period. BB estimated points for songs that had not completed their chart life by the end of the year. Crediting full chart runs was similar to what AT40 did in the early 80s. Edited by Vince |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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It's been widely speculated that Billboard made a mathematical error when they put "Some Kind Of Wonderful" by Grand
Funk at #6 for 1975. No way it should have ranked that high! |
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JMD1961 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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The one that always stood out to me was "Devil's Gun" by C.J. & Company that finished #100 in 1977, despite only peaking at #36 on the chart. |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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At least that record charted for 29 weeks, which was a huge total back then (especially for a song that only peaked at #36). |
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My personal favorite was when Olivia Newton-John's "Magic"
was not included on the 1980 year-end AC chart. Five weeks at #1 and 20 weeks on the chart all during the 1980 chart year - her biggest AC hit ever. Yet, Billboard ranked Maxine Nightingale's "Lead Me On" as the #8 hit of 1980. Too bad it charted during the 1979, not 1980, chart year! "Lead" was even the #3 AC song of 1979 thanks to its seven week run at #1. I always wondered whether Billboard mixed up one N last name (Newton-John) with another (Nightingale)! |
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RoknRobnLoxley ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 25 October 2017 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I think I posted elsewhere, Fred Bronson recalculated the Billboard year-end charts in his book "Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits" based on assigning a carryover record's total points into just 1 year, whichever year achieved the most points, not splitting them into 2 years. Makes sense to me...
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