B.J. Thomas-"Mighty Clouds Of Joy"

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   I only own a "mono on both sides" promo 45 for this. Like my Whitburn book states for the commercial 45, my promo also shows a listed run time of (2:56) for both sides, and actually runs a second shorter, at (2:55), for both sides. However, all 7 current database CDs for this run between (3:12) and (3:14), so Pat will no doubt have to run this one through his "spectrum analyzer" for a proper conclusion.

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: B.J. Thomas-"Mighty Clouds Of Joy" Posted: 31 January 2007 at 11:28am
	I only own a "mono on both sides" promo 45 for this. Like my Whitburn book states for the commercial 45, my promo also shows a listed run time of (2:56) for both sides, and actually runs a second shorter, at (2:55), for both sides. However, all 7 current database CDs for this run between (3:12) and (3:14), so Pat will no doubt have to run this one through his "spectrum analyzer" for a proper conclusion.

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 January 2007 at 9:02pm
	The actual LP running time is (3:13) and it actually is a "version" and not a "length".

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 January 2007 at 9:05pm
	Nice detective work, Jim and Pat! Now can anyone confirm the commercial 45 run time for "Mighty Clouds of Joy"?

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2012 at 8:25pm
	After reviewing the new cd "The Complete Scepter Singles", I had to pull out all of my B.J. Thomas 45's to verify that the correct 45 masters were used for this cd and I discovered that I can no longer detect a difference (other than mono vs stereo mixing) between the 45 of "Mighty Clouds Of Joy" and the LP so I may have to retract my statement above on there being an actual version difference. Can anyone else detect a difference between the 45 and LP appearance of Mighty Clouds Of Joy?

Indy500 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Indy500 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 October 2012 at 3:55pm
	Where do we stand on this song? Other mono versions in the database?

Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 October 2012 at 7:45pm
	I was sent a dub of the mono single and was able to determine that the mono single features the piano hotter. It can be heard upfront for longer periods of time than the stereo mix (on the stereo mix during the refrain the piano drops down to a very low level into the mix, barely noticable but still there. On the mono mix you can hear the piano at a higher level all into the "Hallelujah part of the refrain) Also the piano remains louder near the end of the song. I don't think the real mono mix has ever been issued on CD.

Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 December 2012 at 4:59pm
	Pat I think you had it right the first time, I think there is a single "version". I picked up the stock 45 an at least on the copy I have there is a noticable splice at 1:43 which cuts out one of the refrains, probably to make the end of the song sound stronger.

Indy500 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Indy500 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 January 2013 at 4:12pm
	There is an edit on my Scepter Records SCE 12320 45. It is from 1:43 to 2:14 of the lp version. Running time is 2:50 but has the 2:56 listed time. The fade on the "The Complete Scepter Singles" is 8 seconds sooner than the fade on my 45. Edited by Indy500

Indy500 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Indy500 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 January 2013 at 5:08pm
	I miss-timed the length of the 45. It is 2:56 with the last 5 seconds barely audible on my crackly 45. But no mistaking the edit. Edited by Indy500

Santi Paradoa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 33	Post Options Post Reply Quote Santi Paradoa Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 January 2013 at 5:14pm
	That Real Gone set should be re-titled the Incomplete Scepter Singles instead (what a joke).
	Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida