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My US 12" promo of Keeping the Faith is labeled "Special Mix" and runs 5:22. This is the version I heard on the radio at the time (I recorded it on casette so I can say this for certain). Is the 5:22 version simply a longer version of the "Special Mix" on the 45?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2011 at 8:53pm
Originally posted by 995wlol 995wlol wrote:

My US 12" promo of Keeping the Faith is labeled
"Special Mix" and runs 5:22. This is the version I heard on the radio
at the time (I recorded it on casette so I can say this for certain). Is
the 5:22 version simply a longer version of the "Special Mix" on the
45?

I'd love to hear this version sometime.
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No, the 12" mix is not simply a longer version of the 7" special mix. The "Special Mix" on the 7" 45 adds a lot of instrumentation not on the LP mix, and then the 12" mix adds even more than what's on the 7" remix. The 7" remix is closer in sound to the 12" mix than it is to the LP mix, which has far less instrumentation. The 12" mix is also a bit longer than the others (I don't recall exactly but probably under 20 seconds.)

I faded the 12" mix (from an official CD release) to be the same length as the 7", plus I also took a cleaned vinyl copy of the 7" special remix (supplied by MMathews, and never available on CD) and did some more cleaning, etc., to make it really close to CD quality, and it's those 2 versions that I use for my collection (i.e. what I listen to). I don't really care for the album mix, after having been made aware of these 2 mixes. The 12" mix is available on CD (a BJ boxed set). The 7" special mix is not, but I've been speaking to a contact at Sony about trying to get this put out on CD someday. So at least they are aware that it exists and has never been released on CD.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2011 at 10:09am
Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

The 12" mix is available on CD (a BJ boxed set).

It was documented in another thread that the Billy Joel box set is labeled as 12" Remix, but it's really a different, previously unreleased remix that is close to (but not identical to) the 12" version.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2011 at 12:28pm
Is this a case where a core artist like Billy Joel would dictate what's released and what's not?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote EdisonLite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2011 at 8:20pm
I just read that thread about "Keeping the Faith" 12" version in the "Piano Man" thread. So I guess I've never heard the real 12" version - I've heard the 7" special remix and the neo-12" version. (I guess they call it the 12" version on the box set.) And the real 12" version apparently is longer than the version on the boxed set. But how does it differ from that, mix-wise? Can anyone send a link to the real 12" mix and also give a synopsis of the differences?
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Is the Dance Remix on iTunes the same version as the 45 Special Mix?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2011 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by mainrhythm mainrhythm wrote:

Is the Dance Remix on iTunes the same version as the 45 Special Mix?

Unfortunately, no, it's the alternate mix from the box set. I was able to hear the 12" promo 'Special Mix,' though, and it is very similar to the 45 version. The most notable differences compared to the 7" 'Special Mix' are the intro, bridge, and last verse. The rest of the 12" is pretty much identical to the 45.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PopArchivist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2019 at 12:36am
I'm guessing the Special Mix never made it to CD, correct? Aaron do you have a good dub of this track?
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