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Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

BOTH of these promo 45s had the EXACT same deadwax info: "ASI-9505-SA 39" on one side, and "ASI-9505-SA 82" on the other


My blank white label promo 45 came in a standard stock picture sleeve with the "A brand new 1986 recording..." wording printed on it - no sticker. The deadwax info on this Allied pressing differs from yours: "AS1-9505-SA 10" and "AS1-9505-SA 11." The latter side's matrix number was first etched with an "8" as the last digit, which was stricken through and replaced with the "11" squeezed into the space between the "SA" and the crossed-out "8."

I bought the UK picture disc 45 (Arista 4673) on November 21, 1986. The familiar Monkees guitar logo is pictured, as is...Davy Jones!


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Great stuff! Thanks for posting that terrific label scan, Yah Shure!
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Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Arista noticed Rhino's success, and tried to duplicate this "from the vaults" success with the Monkees, as they owned the group's original Colgems master recordings.

An interesting side note to this: while Arista owned the rights to the Monkees' back catalog, they had actually licensed the individual albums to Rhino, who was in the midst of a reissue program when "Monkee-mania '86" hit. Rhino's reissues of the group's self-titled debut and second LP More Of The Monkees both managed to crack the top 100 of the Billboard album chart when they were released that fall. Arista's The Monkees' Greatest Hits also charted, reaching #69 on the album chart before Then & Now.... superseded it.

Rhino was also able to outflank Arista and get the group (minus Nesmith) under contract to record a new album. The end result, 1987's Pool It, was a commercial and critical disappointment, however. For its part, Arista took the individual albums back and reissued at least some of them themselves a couple of years later (circa 1988), after Rhino's license had apparently expired, but interest in the Monkees had cooled down considerably by then.
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Despite this thread from 7-8 years ago, it seems that no one has ever noticed that the original parent album for this #1(!) hit from 1987 is missing from the on-line database. (And when I say "original parent album", I'm of course referring to the one that was put out during the song's huge revival in 1986-87 as a re-issue on Rhino 74403, and NOT its initial run in 1981 on Alfa 7005, when it missed the top 40...)

In fact, I see that jimct's detailed post above from 04 October 2007 actually MENTIONS the CD in question:

Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

I saw that notation for the 1981 release in the database, but figured that was a studio version, perhaps.
John, "At This Moment" got brought back from the dead, 5+ years later, due to being repeatedly featured on the then-top-rated 80's TV show starring Michael J. Fox, "Family Ties." That's why the 1986/87 release was on Rhino, normally a re-issue label. The initial 1981 45 release was on a Japanese label that took a brief stab at a U.S. operation, Alfa. Vera's work had long been respected by many within the music business, and he had a loyal, long-standing fan base, established over many years (he'd had some chart successes, from as far back as the late 60's, on Atlantic, both as a solo artist and as half of a respected, controversial-for-its-time "interracial duet team" with Judy Clay.) Among these Billy Vera fans were the Rhino Records founders. They were very aware that his "Billy & The Beaters" live 1981 Alfa LP was already long out-of-print, and felt it would sell well as a catalog item. And with the CD format starting to take off around this time, Rhino licensed those 1981 Alfa masters, and included most of the tracks on that LP on Rhino's repackaged "By Request: Best Of Billy Vera & The Beaters" CD. And when the "Family Ties" thing happened, Rhino responded to it by putting the song out as a 45, giving the label their only "current" #1 hit...

As jimct indicated, it was a compilation titled By Request: The Best of Billy Vera & the Beaters, on Rhino 70858. The Rhino single debuted on Billboard's "Hot 100" chart in the November 8, 1986, issue, and By Request: The Best of... followed on the magazine's "Top Pop Albums" chart just four weeks later, in the December 6 issue (although as jimct's post indicates, it appears the album was actually released FIRST, in the summer or early fall of '86, and charted only after the single took off). The collection would go on to peak at #15, and be certified gold a few months later (bought it on cassette myself at that time). However, it's now long out-of-print, and is thus somewhat tough to find today - and because it was a fairly early CD, all copies that I've seen to date were Japan-for-U.S. pressings. There are currently a few used copies of Rhino RNCD 70858 listed on eBay, w/ this one being the cheapest: BILLY VERA & THE BEATERS - "By Request: The Best of..." (U.S. CD) I happen to have this CD already, so if Pat wishes to add it immediately, I can report that "At This Moment" has an actual time of (4:18), and is of course the "LP version" (w/ the :05 spoken intro)...

As a side note, By Request: The Best of... also features the group's moderate 1981 hit, "I Can Take Care of Myself", which did crack the top 40 in some areas, but didn't do quite well enough to qualify for entry in Pat's db (hit #39 in Billboard, but only #42 in Cash Box and #50 in Record World)...

Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Andy, a studio version of "At This Moment" can be found on a 2002 Varese CD, entitled "Billy Vera & The Beaters--At This Moment: A Retrospective". It is currently being offered on Amazon.com. Whether it is THE same studio version that was used on "Family Ties", that I do not know.

db currently states:

Quote (S)      (3:53)      Varese Sarabande 302066340 At This Moment - A Retrospective (live but not the ”hit” live version)

Hmmm, I don't own Varese Sarabande 302066340 myself (so I don't know the correct answer), but I noticed we clearly have a conflict here...
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