Bobby Brown - On Our Own

Gary, the commercial 45 is identical to the dj 45 with the "A" side clearly indicated as the side with rap. You still think the flip side should be noted in the database?

i think that bit of info SHOULD NOT be in the db....for what it's worth...

Why wouldn't you include it, Pat? Almost every DJ 45 you have noted contains information about the flip side or alternate versions.

As much as I concern myself with promo-only versions, I do follow Pat's thinking about what may make THIS particular case unusual. It is rare to find 2 distinct mixes of the SAME song on a commercially available 45. In 98% of cases, only ONE mix of a song was available on a stock 45. Chart info shows the "with rap" version to be the hit; therefore, the other side, the "no rap" version, even though it's the same song, could be technically relegated to "non-hit, flip side" status. Almost all unique DJ 45 versions were not commercially available. Since these DJ 45 versions often got radio airplay, and people couldn't buy them in stores, details on them aren't always easy to come by. So, when such a DJ version surfaces on a CD, Pat HAS to provide the DJ copy version background info - it explains to us HOW it is a legitimate and original version, albeit a promo. To me, "On My Own" seems to fall in the same category as Blow Monkeys' "Digging Your Scene", where the U.S. and U.K. mixes appear on both the stock AND promo 45s. Billboard/Whitburn show the U.S. mix as the "hit" side. Therefore, the U.K. mix could be viewed simply as a non-hit flip, just as the no-rap Bobby Brown could be. Pat, my opinion on this: Since the "no rap" On My Own, and the U.K. "Digging Your Scene" flips both DO appear on their promo 45s, radio airplay for EITHER version was possible; both were offered as legitimate, "original release" versions. If the "with rap" On My Own was the ONLY version found on the promo 45, or the U.S. "Digging Your Scene" was the ONLY version found on that promo 45, then to me, excluding those stock 45 "alternate" versions, if I were you, becomes much easier; they weren't presented to radio as a viable airplay option. But they WERE, in both cases. That these mixes ALSO show up on the stock 45, probably ADDS to how highly thought of, and how legitimate the labels considered them to be. But, for the many folks simply confused by my babble, all of this hair-splitting might be "clear as mud", and I can certainly see how many would simply feel that the more version details you provide, the better.

Edited by jimct

I just listened to my TM Century disc that has the so-called "No Rap" version. Unless the 45 is different, the version on my TM Century disc is merely the LP version faded early. There is, indeed, "rap" at the (2:40) mark, just like the LP version.

Can anyone with the 45 verify if there is or isn't rap starting at (2:40)? I'm wondering if this is a TM Century goof, or if the "no rap" version actually does have rap.