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Hi folks, I'm a new forum member, thanks for having me!

I've recently been working on playlists with songs from 80s
Billboard Hot 100 and Bubbling Under charts.

I'm curious - does anyone know why the Bubbling Under chart
was discontinued from mid 1985 until 1992? And is there an
analogous chart from another publication during this time?

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Dave
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Dave, welcome to the forum!

I've never seen an explanation for why Billboard discontinued the Bubbling Under chart in 1985. I do know
that shortly after Record Research released an updated Bubbling Under book in 1992, Billboard decided to
resurrect the chart.
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Dave -

the only thing analogous to the Bubbling Under that I can
think of from the time period comes from Radio & Records.
They published 2 additional lists with their CHR top 40 -
New & Active and Significant action - basically any song
that had 10 or more stations reporting a song (the former
being songs that had more stations than the latter). Many
songs (especially as CHR splintered) that appeared in the
significant action portion did not make the Hot 100.
Worldradiohistory.com is one place to access R&R.
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As an example: The 2/28/86 issue of R&R had 25 songs in the
significant action list, 3 of which didn't make the Hot 100
Bon Jovi's "Silent Night", Van Stephenson's "We're Doing
Alright" and Brian Setzer's "The Knife Feels Like Justice"

It's possible that these would have appeared on a Bubbling
Under chart if one was published that week
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Well, Cash Box had a "looking ahead" chart, for up to positions 101-150, from 1959-82, and 1990-93. Record Research (RR) compiled these records in their book "Cash Box Looking Ahead 1959-93" = the usual records-by-artist book, not the charts themselves.

Go here to read all about it:

https://www.recordresearch.com/books/cash-box-looking-ahead- 1959-1993/

All the Cash Box bubblers 1954-82 are in the RR "Comparison Book 1954-82" as well. (There's also a RR Record World bubblers book "Hit Records #101-150 1959-82", this data also in the Comparison Book.)

It would be super groovy keen kool to get a RR 'charts themselves' book on all these #101-150 bubbler charts, Billboard, Cash Box, and Record World. Maybe put them all in one book, hint hint, ha...
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Originally posted by RoknRobnLoxley RoknRobnLoxley wrote:


It would be super groovy keen kool to get a RR 'charts themselves' book on all
these #101-150 bubbler charts, Billboard, Cash Box, and Record World. Maybe
put them all in one book, hint hint, ha...


That would make a great book!

But if I understand correctly, all the bubbling info can be found in Record
Research books of the magazine in question (Cashbox, Record World,
Billboard, etc.) I'm not with my books right now, but all this info has been
published, right? Or is R&R the only missing this kind of info?
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I believe Robin is requesting that we publish the actual Bubbling Under charts as they appeared in the original
publication(s). I don't see that happening any time soon.
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That's too bad. I get it. But it would be nice to see those charts, too.
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