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Ha! In practice, the song would never get that far, because I would have already changed the station after five seconds.

I guess one could say that the fade is the best part of the song, knowing it's over!
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LOL! Too funny.
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Originally posted by Moderator Moderator wrote:

The 45 is simply an early fade of the LP (about :07 worth). Neither the 45, LP or the "Hits" cd you reference end cold, they all fade out.


Many of the stations I've worked at referred to songs that end with a long sustained note as a "cool" ending...not really a fade, but not a cold ending either.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NightAire Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 April 2012 at 11:53am
I've heard it called a "cool" ending, or, believe it or not, a "cold / fade." :)

At stations I worked for, we had:

C = cold
F = fade
CF = cold / fade

I've also heard "sustain" used, now that I think about it.
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At one of my old stations, they would refer to this type of ending as a
"decay."

Back on the subject of this song, I remember a few years ago I heard
an AC station play "Can't Fight This Feeling" with most of the guitar
solo edited in the middle. I'm assuming this was an in-house edit since
I've never heard of any official release like this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PopArchivist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 November 2021 at 12:08am
Originally posted by RichM921 RichM921 wrote:

At one of my old stations, they would refer to this type of ending as a
"decay."

Back on the subject of this song, I remember a few years ago I heard
an AC station play "Can't Fight This Feeling" with most of the guitar
solo edited in the middle. I'm assuming this was an in-house edit since
I've never heard of any official release like this.


I recreated the in-house A/C edit. It isn't hard. It's entirely feasible an AC station would do that. Does anyone else remember it getting any airplay?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 November 2021 at 11:06am
When this was a hit, I never once heard an edit of the song on the New York City stations that I listened to. Not to say that some stations didn't edit it, but if they did, such an edit wasn't widespread.

And 9-1/2 years after my previous post, I retrieved a nice dub of the vinyl LP version from YouTube. I can confirm that it runs at about 78.6 BPM, or about 0.4% faster than the Rhino disc. (That's real, but not really significant. Safe to ignore the speed difference.) The last note is hit at 4:39, and it reaches silence at 4:53. So, it's got a 14-second fade on the last note. The fade on the Rhino disc exactly matches the LP fade.

I've noticed that the REO Speedwagon collection The Hits runs fast on a few (all?) tracks, and has its left and right channels swapped on a few (all?) tracks. Avoid this collection, if possible.

Summing up:

LP - 14-second fade
45 - 7-second fade, roughly same speed as LP (variation within typical source-to-source speed variations for that time frame)
The Hits - too fast
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To get the mastering on The Hits to the speed it was almost certainly performed at (A4=440 Hz), you need to slow it down about 1.36%, e.g. interpret the sample rate as 43506 instead of 44100. This is almost exactly the 1.41% slowdown required to get 79.2 down to 78.1 BPM, so I think it's safe to assume the 45 is pretty close to the "correct" speed.

A few others on The Hits:
• Keep On Loving You needs to be slowed 0.91% (43702).
• Don't Let Him Go needs to be slowed 1.14% (43605).
• Take It On The Run needs to be slowed 0.86% (43722).

Keep On Loving You on the Like, Omigod! box is the same speed as on The Hits.

(Of course, any speedup or slowdown on the original vinyl records may have been intentional. Even if not, you may regard the authentic listening experience as whatever those vinyl speeds are. I personally feel it depends on the song, but I can't think of any time I'd really want to hear REO Speedwagon sped up at all.)
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Originally posted by PopArchivist PopArchivist wrote:

I recreated the in-house A/C edit. It isn't hard. It's entirely feasible an AC station would do
that. Does anyone else remember it getting any airplay?


I'm pretty sure Magic 106.7 in Boston played an edit of this, they were known for doing house edits.
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