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    Posted: 19 March 2014 at 7:57pm
For the search function: Captain And Tennille - Do That To Me One More Time. I heard that this song was recorded in their living room; I could be mistaken.

LP length, about 4:13

The first version to appear on CD was the LP length, on a mail-order 3-CD set called Sessions presents Secret Love (1987). It ran 4:12, and 89.8 BPM throughout (live drummer playing to a click track). I'd say the sound is good, but not great, and that this disc doesn't use the lowest-generation source tape.

In 1990, radio library production company Century 21 (later known as TM Century) put out a sampler of their custom-for-radio compilation series, GoldDisc 3. "Nothing else/sounds as good/as GoldDisc 3." Hard to argue with that, except in hindsight. The sampler used this Captain And Tennille track as one of the demo songs. Here, it used the same analog transfer as Secret Love, with no added noise reduction (that's good), but a truncated fade (that's bad).

Two other compilations that use the same analog transfer as Secret Love:
  • Warner Special Products' 2-CD Night Songs (1994)
  • JCI's Only Love 1980-1984 (1995)
In 1994, there was a new analog transfer done for Casablanca Records Story, where it runs 4:12 and 90.1 BPM throughout. This sounds far better than Secret Love, with a much-boosted high end, and (to my ears) lower-generation source tapes. There are digital clones on:
  • PolyGram's single-disc Selections From The Casablanca Story (1994)
  • PolyGram's Casablanca Records (1996)
There's still one more new analog transfer on Ultimate Collection (2001), but it's compressed a bit to even out the volume level from the beginning of the song to the end of the song. It's not severely brickwalled, but this kind of mastering loses some of the dynamic of the song - it really does start much quieter than the end.

For the LP length, I prefer the Casablanca discs.

45 length, about 3:49

The 45 length first appeared on Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1980 (1992), where it runs 3:51 and 89.7 BPM throughout. Here it sounds quite nice to my ears, with low generation source tapes, no extra compression/limiting, and a slightly bright EQ. At the tail end of the fade, you'll hear a buzzing down around -72 dB. I couldn't hear it until the music ended, so it's way down in volume, and certainly not noticeable during the song. There are a few discs that use the same analog transfer as Billboard:
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk (1994; digitally exactly 0.3 dB quieter)
  • Warner Special Products' 2-CD Seventies Feelings (1995)
  • Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 39 Pop Nuggets Late '70s (1995; differently EQ'd digital clone but also has added compression and clips a lot - avoid)
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 4 Together Forever (1996; digitally exactly 2.896 dB quieter)
  • Time-Life's single-disc Body Talk Hearts Together (1998; also digitally exactly 2.896 dB quieter)
Others:

Priority's Eighties Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 7 Light And Easy (1993) actually sounds pretty good, but clips a bit. It runs 3:49 and 90.3 BPM throughout. Rhino's Radio Daze Vol. 1 (1995) also sounds pretty good, but it's not clear why they didn't just use a clone of the Billboard CD. Here, it runs 3:49 and 89.8 BPM throughout.

For the 45 length, I prefer Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1980 (1992).

Spanish version

I knew that they rerecorded their first album entirely in Spanish, but until yesterday did not know that they also Spanish-ized "Do That To Me One More Time". It appears to have been released in Spain as a 45 A-side, as Casablanca 60 00 416 in 1980, titled "Amame Una Vez Mas". It was also released as 12" B-sides in the UK for "No Love In The Morning" and "Happy Together (A Fantasy)". The song is posted a few times on YouTube - I found a version running about 4:00 with a cold ending. The 12" singles have a printed time of 4:02, so that's consistent.

I doubt that this has been, or will be, released on CD.

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That Spanish version was released on a U.S. 45 too, for
about a second. Back in '80, WKTU in NY started playing
it, then they created an in-house "Spang-lish" edit. At
that time i looked in Record World and at the end of the
45 wall they had 5 or 6 current hits in Spanish, this was
one. Held it in my hand..but put it back.
I figured I'd pick it up next trip. Nope, gone. Never saw
another copy again, and I looked on and off for like 30
years.. never found it, not even on E-bay.

Finally,'bout 2 months ago my friend Chris bought some
foreign hits online as 45's, and shipped them to me so I
could dub them to digital for him.   This was one! Yay,
after 30 plus years.   
The copy he found is a promo, stereo/mono and the # is
NB2247DJ. Title is listed as "Do That To Me One More Time
(Amame Una Vez Mas)"
And as Ron mentioned, it is indeed 4:02 with a cold
ending.
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Never knew the Spanish version of this was so obscure as a 45. I have one I picked up off Ebay and they do have one currently listed for sale under BIN for $7.
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Originally posted by MMathews MMathews wrote:

Back in '80,...i looked in Record World and at the end of the 45 wall they had 5 or 6 current hits in Spanish, this was one.

Quote ...'bout 2 months ago my friend Chris bought some foreign hits online as 45's, and shipped them to me so I could dub them to digital for him.

So 34 years later, by chance do you remember what any of those other hits you saw at Record World sung in Spanish were??? Also, could you share what the other titles were that your friend recently bought on-line??? :-) I ask because by coincidence, about six months ago, as a personal project I started compiling a list of '70s & '80s hits that were also recorded in Spanish by the original artists at the time, and needless to say, assembling such a list has been fairly tough. There was definitely a peak for this "fad" in the late '70s/early '80s, w/ the trend settling down for about 5-6 years before making a big comeback in the late '80s, w/ the explosion of the Latin freestyle movement and Gloria Estefan, among others (which continued through the early '90s - think Gerardo, Jon Secada, and even Wilson Phillips). Over the years, it seems like I've been sporadically learning about "new" Spanish-language singles/versions of hit songs that I didn't previously know about, so just for kicks, last Fall I decided it was finally time to make a list of the ones I could confirm - and yes, "Do That to Me One More Time" ("Amame Una Vez Mas") was one of them. So far, my research indicates that these Spanish-language versions weren't always released here in the U.S., while others - when they were issued here - were relegated to 12" singles only. I've also indicated which ones I know to exist on CD, and to my surprise, it seems very few dating prior to the late '80s do (starting in the late '80s, most exist on promo CD singles, at the very least)...

Quote The copy he found is a promo, stereo/mono and the # is NB2247DJ. Title is listed as "Do That To Me One More Time (Amame Una Vez Mas)"

Yep, that's definitely the U.S. 45. I happen to have a commercial/stock copy of Casablanca 2247, and the title is shown the exact same way there. BTW, the B-side is "Deep in the Dark" (sung in English) - same as what appeared on the flip of Casablanca 2215 (i.e., the hit English version of "DTTMOMT"). The stereo/mono promos of Casablanca 2247 aren't extremely hard to find, but commercial/stock copies definitely are...

Quote And as Ron mentioned, it is indeed 4:02 with a cold ending.

Printed time on commercial/stock copies was also (4:02), although I haven't actually timed or listened to my copy (yet)...

Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

I doubt that [the Spanish-language version of "DTTMOMT"] has been, or will be, released on CD.

So far, I've come up empty on this one as well (domestic or import). Of course, as you rightly noted, the Captain & Tennille re-recorded their entire debut album in Spanish (as Por Amor Viviremos), which was released here in the U.S. on A&M 4561 in late 1975. The reason??? On a whim, earlier that Summer, they'd recorded their #1 hit, "Love Will Keep Us Together", in Spanish, and released it as a commercial single here in the U.S., on A&M 1715. Guess what??? Apparently to the label's surprise, it actually charted in its own right, hitting #49 pop in Billboard and #57 in Cash Box! So A&M rushed them back into the studio to re-do the entire album in Spanish. And while it appears the Spanish-language album has never been re-issued on CD, the hit Spanish version of "LWKUT" is actually included on 2001's Ultimate Collection CD...

In closing, I'll now leave you all w/ the Spanish-language version of America's 1975 hit, "Sister Golden Hair", as found on YouTube (haven't confirmed if this was ever released in the U.S., though - but if anyone can, please post the info here!): America - "Sister Golden Hair" (1975 Spanish-language version) :-)
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In working my way through 1980, so far I've found the
following tracks in Spanish. I don't know in what format
these were originally released, or in what countries.
But I can confirm that these actually exist, and are
recorded by the original artists.

CALL ME [in Spanish] - Blondie
AMAMA UNA VEZ MAS [Do That To Me One More Time in
Spanish] - Captain and Tennille
POR FAVOR NO TE VAYAS [Please Don't Go in Spanish] - KC
and the Sunshine Band
YES I'M READY [in Spanish] - Teri DeSario with KC
NO TE ENAMORES DE UN LOCO [Don't Fall In Love With A
Dreamer in Spanish] - Kenny Rogers with Kim Carnes
STEAL AWAY [in Spanish] - Robbie Dupree
LET'S GET SERIOUS [in Spanish] - Jermaine Jackson
MAS AMOR [More Love in Spanish] - Kim Carnes
HOT ROD HEARTS [in Spanish] - Robbie Dupree

There may be more; I'm still working through the 1980
tracks.
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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

In working my way through 1980,
so far I've found the
following tracks in Spanish.


Add to your list "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" - Police

I have a promo 45 of it, b/w DDDD,DDDD in Japanese.
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You can find "Si No Estás Tú" - the Spanish version of Harry Nilsson's "Without You" - on the recent remastering of the Nilsson Schmilsson album.
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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

In working my way through 1980, so far I've found the following tracks in Spanish. I don't know in what format these were originally released, or in what countries. But I can confirm that these actually exist, and are recorded by the original artists.

CALL ME [in Spanish] - Blondie
AMAMA UNA VEZ MAS [Do That To Me One More Time in
Spanish] - Captain and Tennille
POR FAVOR NO TE VAYAS [Please Don't Go in Spanish] - KC
and the Sunshine Band
YES I'M READY [in Spanish] - Teri DeSario with KC
NO TE ENAMORES DE UN LOCO [Don't Fall In Love With A
Dreamer in Spanish] - Kenny Rogers with Kim Carnes
STEAL AWAY [in Spanish] - Robbie Dupree
LET'S GET SERIOUS [in Spanish] - Jermaine Jackson
MAS AMOR [More Love in Spanish] - Kim Carnes
HOT ROD HEARTS [in Spanish] - Robbie Dupree

Wow, cftp - that's quite a list, for just a single year! The ones I put in bold, I didn't yet know about - but I'll take those, and see if I can't find more details, such as format, U.S. release, availability on CD, etc. (Thanks for the leads.) About six months ago, I originally spent a couple of my weekends researching my list, and since then have only added a few new notes to it, but if you have this many from just a single year, then you're definitely way ahead of me! (Haven't focused on any particular year; just the '70s & '80s, although I have notes on additional titles up through the late '90s, many of which I learned about through posts by fellow members of this board.) But if there were this many from just a single year (adding in the ones I can also contribute from 1980 - see below), this will clearly be a bigger project than I originally bargained for, lol...

Quote There may be more; I'm still working through the 1980 tracks.

Yes, there are definitely others, just from 1980. In addition to the one that Hykker mentioned by The Police (which I was already previously aware of), you can include the following:

TOMMY JAMES - "No Hay Dos Sin Tres" ("Three Times in Love") (commercial U.S. 45 issued on Millennium 11787, w/ unique picture sleeve)
POINTER SISTERS - "Es Tan Timido" ("He's So Shy") (commercial U.S. 45 issued on Planet 47918)
KOOL & THE GANG - "Celebremos" ("Celebration") (commercial U.S. 12" single issued on De-Lite 503)

I actually have a commercial/stock copy of the U.S. 45 by Tommy James listed above (complete w/ ps) - definitely another toughie, just like the one by Captain & Tennille. YOU'VE actually mentioned the one by the Pointer Sisters here on this board previously, lol. (To quote you from a post made on 09 January 2008 in the Wilson Phillips - "You're In Love" thread: "Foreign language re-recordings are my specialty on the radio show. There's nothing like a little Pointer Sisters in Spanish ["He's So Shy"] or Chicago in Japanese ["Questions 67 and 68"] to wake you up!") The Kool & the Gang song could arguably be from 1981 (first hit the charts in October of '80, but peaked on the pop chart in February of '81, although it did hit #1 r&b in December of '80, so take your pick...)

The Spanish version of "Celebration" ("Celebremos") is another one that IS available on CD here in the U.S., as it was included on 1999's The 12" Collection and More. So this begs the following: When the Spanish-language versions of these top 40 hits are available on a U.S. CD, should they also be listed in Pat's book/database??? Over the years, he has been inconsistent: e.g., Kool & the Gang IS listed - as is Blondie's "Call Me" - but the Captain & Tennille ISN'T (referring to "Love Will Keep Us Together", of course - not "Do That To Me One More Time"). The Spanish-language version of Toni Basil's 1982 hit, "Mickey", is also on TWO U.S. CDs, but they're not listed, either. Personally, I'd like to see these all listed, just for the sake of completeness. :-) Opinions???

Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Add to your list "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" - Police

I have a promo 45 of it, b/w DDDD,DDDD in Japanese.

Yep, commercial/stock copies also exist; it was issued here in the U.S. on A&M 25000, w/ a unique picture sleeve. Interesting thing about this one: The 45 was issued here in the U.S. w/ both small and large center holes (although the version w/ the small center hole seems to be more common). So far, I've found no evidence that either the Spanish- or Japanese-language versions of this hit are available on CD (domestic or import), which somewhat surprises me...

Originally posted by Ringmaster_D Ringmaster_D wrote:

You can find "Si No Estás Tú" - the Spanish version of Harry Nilsson's "Without You" - on the recent remastering of the Nilsson Schmilsson album.

Hmmm, didn't yet know about that one, either, but it definitely falls in the '70s, so I'll add it to my list. Thanks!
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Yes, I like the idea of consistency, and I, too, would prefer Pat include the Spanish versions in the database if they exist on US CD. (He could simply mention "Spanish Version" in the database, as he has done for "Call Me", etc.)

Maybe the incompleteness you refer to could be because Pat wasn't aware of their existence on US CD. There probably aren't too many other songs so I don't think it would be a massive undertaking to update the database for this. But it's Pat's call.

And 80sMusicFreak, for any other results you find - of these above mentioned songs in Spanish, whatever you find (especially CDs) please mention them in the forum here. Maybe we can start a new thread called "Top 40 Hits in Spanish" here, and keep an ongoing list of anything released on CD, 45, or LP.

I suggest the new thread because anyone who doesn't care about "Do That To Me One More Time" won't even know about all the artists' Spanish titles discussed above.

And wow, if those Robbie Dupree or Kim Carnes titles exist on any import CDs, please report back!

Also, for the record, Sheena Easton recorded an all-Spanish LP in the mid '80s (also released on CD in 1989!) It contained 5 of her hits in Spanish, and 5 original songs sung in Spanish.

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Originally posted by 80smusicfreak 80smusicfreak wrote:

Originally posted by MMathews MMathews wrote:

Back in '80,...i
looked in Record World and at the end of the 45 wall they
had 5 or 6 current hits in Spanish, this was one.

Quote ...'bout 2 months ago my friend Chris bought some
foreign hits online as 45's, and shipped them to me so I
could dub them to digital for him.

So 34 years later, by chance do you remember what any of
those other hits you saw at Record World sung in Spanish
were??? Also, could you share what the other titles were
that your friend recently bought on-line??? :-) [/URL] :-
)


Sorry I missed this Q until now.... sadly I only
remember one other 45 of the ones Record World had in the
Spanish section, that I also wanted, but did not buy:
Lady by Kenny Rogers. It was yet another one that 'KTU
in NY made a Spanglish edit for.

The other tracks Chris asked me to dub for him are all
older:

Young Rascals - "Groovin" (Promo 45 with Spanish one
side, and Italian on the other)
Petula Clark - "Mon Amour" (My Love in French)
Petula Clark - "Si Tu Prenais Le Temps" (A Sign Of The
Times in French)

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