"Dark Horse" - George Harrison

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   Continuing with my Beatles theme, DJ copies of "Dark Horse" ran 2:48 and 3:52, all commercial copies ran 3:52.

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Paul Haney Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Haney Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: "Dark Horse" - George Harrison Posted: 04 January 2006 at 10:11am
	Continuing with my Beatles theme, DJ copies of "Dark Horse" ran 2:48 and 3:52, all commercial copies ran 3:52.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 209	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 July 2009 at 11:16pm
	A real interesting discovery that none of us picked up on - On Barry Scott's show this weekend, he played "Dark Horse" and then said something like "yes, you heard vinyl on that one because it's the rare single mix, NOT the album mix". The database mentions nothing of a single mix. Nor did anyone post about this in this chatboard. So does anyone have the 45, and can they verify that Barry is correct when he calls this the "single mix"? This would be another great find for the singles collectors to have. I wonder if the new George Harrison compilation CD has this mix. Oh wait, I think someone posted that this song was skipped all together. Too bad they didn't put the single mix on here. It's not often that a new George Harrison compilation comes out!

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 209	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 July 2009 at 2:50pm
	I A-B'd the album version with the recording actually played on Barry Scott's show, which seems to simply be the dj edit (which edits out the 2nd verse and chorus). The quality of what I was hearing on Barry Scott's show was low because it was what I heard over the internet, and I couldn't quite tell if guitars were added to the mix or if the EQ's of my 2 "sources" were just very different. So it's possible that dj version was a different mix, but I'd guess it's really just the same mix, edited. If anyone has the dj edit on 45, I suppose they can compare with the CD and see if there really are mix differences.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 July 2013 at 7:55am
	my commercial 45 issued as apple 1877 has a plain white label; no apple picture or green colors.....just plain white....the label lists the run time as 3:52 and does indeed run that and is identical to the version on the cd 'best of'.....you do need to slow the 'best of' cd version by a second, to match it perfectly........question is....was there ever a standard colorful apple logo design issued for this vinyl 45 as apple 1877?
	edtop40

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 July 2013 at 8:07am
	No. Even my promo 45 is in plain white, and omits the apple itself. But it does say at the top "An Apple Record." Paul Haney, I mistook your initial info for a long/short "combo" promo 45. To clarify, there were clearly two different promo 45s issued for "Dark Horse", as both the mono (deadwax "PRO 8009(X-48945)-Z-1") and stereo (deadwax "X-48945-Z-5") sides of my promo 45 have both a listed and actual run time of (3:52). But I do also see a label scan for the (2:48) promo you cite on 45cat, and both the mono and stereo sides for it both include the shorter time. (In fact, that was the one I thought I was buying! Oh well....) Edited by jimct

Ringmaster_D Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 08 July 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ringmaster_D Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 July 2013 at 2:25pm
	For what it's worth, Chip Madinger's book "Eight Arms To Hold You"--which I consider the best source for details on solo Beatles mix differences--does not note any mix differences between the 45 and LP versions, other than the edits on the promo copies. Edited by Ringmaster_D

Paul Haney Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Haney Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 August 2016 at 7:35pm
	Still looking for the (2:48) DJ edit on this one.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 79	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 2017 at 11:17am
	I had a DJ 45 recreation at one time, but it's MIA. Today, taking some time to recreate on memory, I seem to recall one edit to get to the 2:48 DJ 45 length. If you cut from 00.59.636-2:02.40 does that make sense? It runs 2:48 after the edit. Can anyone confirm I am correct?

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 79	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 2017 at 4:14pm
	Steve was kind enough to send me a mono dub of the edit. Wow, turns out my memory, for once, didn't fail me. So, Paul Haney, details above are correct to recreate the short edit.