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    Posted: 20 September 2007 at 11:06am
While I don't own this 45, I believe the promo included an edit of the live version (from the Arena album) on one side and a studio edit (from the Rio album) on the flip side.
My question is which version did most stations play during its chart run? I have a Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 show from '85, which uses the live Arena edit. I also have an old tape recorded off WLOL/Minneapolis sometime in early '86 that plays the full live version, but faded early (although this may have been recorded from a nationally syndicated show focusing on D.D. since the next song is "Hungry Like the Wolf").
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Originally posted by 995wlol 995wlol wrote:


My question is which version did most stations play during its chart run?
Any ideas?


I recall hearing the live version most often when that was a hit. I heard the studio version most of the time in its earlier release in 82-83 time frame, but unfortunately it didn't end up charting then.

Too bad - I like the studio version better!
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Am presuming the version listed in the database is the studio 45 version from 1982 or so? That's the version that is on all the CD's listed, correct? Or, was the studio version re-released in 1985 when the 'arena' version became a hit. To be honest, I don't remember, and I worked in Top 40 radio then. OK, I'm old, lol.
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My promo 45 has the same, listed (3:59), actual (3:43) studio version that Pat notes in the database, for one side of it. The other side of my promo 45, however, has a listed (3:30); actual (3:34) "From The Arena" live version. I hear NO crowd noise, and except for a little extra guitar and energy, it sounds 98% like the studio version! Even though our station always played the studio version, I was under the impression that the "From The Arena" version was the "plug side", probably because "Arena" was their "then-current" LP. But I now see that the studio version was listed as "Side One" on the pic sleeve - man, you learn something new every day! What do other folks remember hearing on their Top 40 stations for this in 1985?

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I had to pop in my Duran Duran Greatest CD for this one. According to the database, this CD has the 45 version, and it's certainly not live. Is the 3:43 version on your promo 45 live? If so, it appears you have unearthed TWO new DJ edits! The database does not mention, as you point out, the (3:34) studio edit that appears on your promo, nor does it mention the unique "live" edit running (3:43).

To sum it up, the stock 45 version is not live, correct? Only the promo 45 has the live version, and I agree with Jim, it should be noted in the database along with his shorter promo edit of the studio version.
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Aaron, thanks to you, I just re-listened to, carefully re-evaluated and edited my preceding "Save A Prayer" post. Turns out, my promo and stock 45s are exactly the same, with the longer studio version on one side, and the shorter, "live" (I guess) version on the other.
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Jim, this could be a "Candle In The Wind" situation, where the crowd noise was removed for the 45. I'm not too familiar with the Arena LP, so I don't know if perhaps that version could be edited so you wouldn't hear any crowd noise.
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to answer your question, Jim - I only ever heard the studio version on the top 40 stations in my area (Western Massachusetts, Vermont & Connecticut)
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my commercial 45 does not state a version or a run time on the labels face, but runs 3:44 and is identical to the cd version listed below...

(S) (3:44) Capitol 96239 Greatest (45 version)










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I dug out my notes for this track; unfortunately I didn't keep as detailed notes for the early '80s tracks as I did for the early '90s tracks...

I have the album version on
  • Decade (1989 - best sounding version of this track)
  • Pop & Wave Vol. 4 (1993; digitally identical to Decade)
  • Retro Lunchbox Gooey Love Songs (1997 - also digitally identical to Decade)
  • Greatest Hits Of The '80s (an 8-CD import box set; clips a lot around -3 dB)
  • Time-Life's Modern Rock 1984-1989
  • Now Smash Hits Of The 80's (UK, 1987)
I have a shorter edit (running about 3:42) on Now 1982 The Millennium Series (UK, 1999 - sounds not so good).

I don't have the edit on an actual piece of vinyl, so I tried to find instructions how to create the Now 1982 edit from the album version on Decade. My notes are a little too crude to piece together exactly how much to remove with each edit, but once you're done...

Your mixdown will have edits 1:12 and 2:37 and a 16-beat sinusoidal fade starting at 3:36.

Not as helpful as most of my posts, I realize, but I'll revisit these edits if there's an overwhelming desire from you guys.
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