Dusty Springfield-"Wishin’ And Hopin’"

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   My commercial 45 has a listed time of (2:55), but an actual time of (2:48). Since all of the many mono and stereo CD versions for this song currently in the database are so consistently either (2:52) or (2:53), I stopwatched it a second time, to be extra sure - it is definitely (2:48); perhaps the 1964 45 was sped up.

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Dusty Springfield-"Wishin’ And Hopin’" Posted: 13 July 2007 at 7:31pm
	My commercial 45 has a listed time of (2:55), but an actual time of (2:48). Since all of the many mono and stereo CD versions for this song currently in the database are so consistently either (2:52) or (2:53), I stopwatched it a second time, to be extra sure - it is definitely (2:48); perhaps the 1964 45 was sped up.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 November 2012 at 7:29pm
	jim, you are correct regarding the pitch....my commercial 45 issued as philips 40207 states the run time on the label as 2:55 but actually runs 2:49 and you need to pitch up the cd version to match the vinyl 45 speed..... Edited by edtop40
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Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 November 2012 at 9:01pm
	I wonder if the slower pitched stereo CD appearances of Dusty Springfield's "Wishin' and Hopin'" are reflective of the LP speed? Can anyone confirm?

TomDiehl1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomDiehl1 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 December 2012 at 2:01am
	The original stereo lp was rechanneled. I have the stereo LP in storage so it is not easy for me to get to at the moment, and I can't recall how the song sounded on there, but my guess is the true stereo versions represent the song at its original recorded speed and the LP may likely be sped up like the single.
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davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 December 2012 at 11:58am
	so when did the song first appear in true stereo? I had it on a reissue single before the CD era
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KentT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote KentT Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 December 2012 at 5:30pm
	The UK Philips 45 is slower. The US Philips is sped up. This tune was not Stereo until the Taragon Records sync job. Edited by KentT
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AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 December 2012 at 6:49pm
	To Kent: I think you are confusing "Wishin' & Hopin'" with the "I Only Want To Be With You" sync job. "Wishin' & Hopin'" first appeared in true stereo in the USA on a Polygram reissue 45 but may have apeared in the UK prior on a comp. Andy

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 December 2012 at 7:33pm
	I always thought that "Wishin' And Hopin'" was only released as a 45 in the U.S. and Canada in 1964, not the U.K., for several reasons. Songwriters Burt Bacharach and Hal David were initially unsuccessful in convincing the always-opinionated Dusty on the idea of issuing the track as a single. But the "connected" duo were able to garner some momentum for the track, via some DJ airplay as an LP cut, which prompted Philips U.S. to issue it as a 45. Just as it was hitting here, "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" was her current UK 45, which prompted the Merseybeats to quickly record/issue a cover version 45, which almost hit the UK Top 10. So I'm a bit confused about Kent's referring to his UK 45 copy, unless was it "re-issued" there at a later date, of course.

MMathews Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MMathews Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 December 2012 at 11:00pm
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KentT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote KentT Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 December 2012 at 12:18pm
	Confused the two songs. My middle 1970's Philips Double Hit reissue 45 of "Wishin' & Hopin'"is mono. Is the Time Pieces reissue 1980's 45 Stereo?
	I turn up the good and turn down the bad!