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    Posted: 23 April 2016 at 4:37pm
It seems that no one here has ever analyzed this one before, but there evidently is a 45/LP version difference for "I Wanna Hear it from Your Lips"...

When the song's original parent album, simply titled Eric Carmen, was first released in January of '85, it was issued here in the U.S. on vinyl LP & cassette only - there was no CD. (The album never really took off, and because CDs were still less than 10% of the market at the time, they didn't bother putting it out in the digital format. I bought the cassette myself...)

Finally, in 1997, Geffen issued it on CD for the first time as part of its budget "Geffen Goldline" series; that re-issue was identical to the original vinyl LP & cassette (i.e., no bonus tracks). However, it didn't remain in print very long, and because the CD sold so few in number (after all, the album was already more than 12 years old at that point), it has been in high demand, w/ used copies still going for about $40-$50! I'd been wanting that re-issue for several years now, but the high price tag has always held me back...

Well, yesterday (Friday), the album was re-issued on CD again for only the second time here in the U.S., on Varese Sarabande 30206740684. I'm seriously considering buying this one instead, as this new edition also includes - as a bonus track - the "single mix by Don Gehman" of "I Wanna Hear it from Your Lips" (track 11). Page for the CD on VS's official web site, complete w/ cover photo & track listing: ERIC CARMEN - "Eric Carmen" (new U.S. CD) Although I've never owned the 45 myself, sure enough, a check of this one over at 45cat here does reveal that the label states, "Re-mixed by Don Gehman", w/ a printed time of "3:12"...

According to Pat's on-line db, "I Wanna Hear it from Your Lips" has appeared on only two other U.S. CDs to date: the aforementioned 1997 re-issue of the Eric Carmen album on Geffen 24042, where it runs (3:13) and is presumably the LP version, and on the 1998 V/A compilation titled The Lost 45's of the '70s & '80s (Varese Vintage 5955), where the song interestingly clocks in :02 longer, at (3:15). Could that be the 45 version??? Any of the "45 experts" here care to detail the 45/LP differences??? :-)
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BTW, that brand new CD release on Varese Sarabande also has another bonus track as they included the 12" version of "I Wanna Hear It From Your Lips." I haven't heard this disc yet so stay tuned.
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Wow, that's great about the 12" of "I Wanna Hear It..." I'd seen that the bonuses were only to consist of one song, and it wasn't the 12".

And btw, I did buy this Geffen album on CD in '85. True, it didn't come out in the US on CD until '97, but I found the Japanese import CD of it in '85 at Tower Records/DC and bought it immediately (about 3 months before I had a CD player.) I knew I'd eventually be getting a player, and didn't know if I'd ever see this import CD at Tower when I went back the next time, so I bought it then and there, because I already had the LP, and it was my favorite of Eric's output (well, tied with the 1st Arista album.)
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The Varese link given above only shows 1 bonus track - the single mix - not 2 bonus tracks and not the 12". Are you sure the 12" mix is on it? I'm guessing you saw another tracklist elsewhere, but I'd think Varese Sarabande's website would be more accurate than other ones, since this is the label that released it.
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BTW, I saw the video of "I Wanna Hear It..." on VH-1 (actually both versions of the video) and never recalled it sounding any different than the album mix. So, the changes could be subtle, or the video used the album mix.

If the video did use the single mix, I can say it's not a radical remix, like we've seen in the cases of many other single mixes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2016 at 3:22pm
i just a/b'ed my commercial 45 versus the cd version from
'lost 45's of the 70's & 80's' and they are
identical.....both run 3:15 even though the vinyl 45's
label states the run time as 3:12......i can't speak for
the 3:12 cd version but the vinyl 45 def runs 3:15....
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Ed:
Does the commercial 45 immediately start with Eric singing "I hear it from my friends" or does his vocal start about eight seconds later? Does the commercial 45 say anywhere on it "single mix by Don Gehman?"
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Gordon:
The actual Varese Sarabande CD has a dozen tracks (including the two bonus tracks tacked to the end). Yes their website doesn't show that (neither does Amazon US).
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Originally posted by Santi Paradoa Santi Paradoa wrote:

Ed:
Does the commercial 45 immediately start with Eric
singing "I hear it from my friends" or does his vocal
start about eight seconds later?


I can confirm the version on 'Lost 45's of the 70's &
80's' begins immediately with the "I hear it from my
friends" vocal.

Does the LP version have an instrumental intro?

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Here is what I have been able to figure out so far with the help of Mark Mathews. The commercial 45 matches the version on the Barry Scott's Lost 45s of the 70s & 80s CD from a couple of decades ago. This new release has three different versions of this song. Track one is the LP version (which matches the 45 as well). The first bonus track (labeled single remix by Don Gehman) is track eleven and is indeed a remix. The question now becomes was this remix ever issued before and if so when and where. The second bonus track (track twelve) is the 12" version which is the remix by John "Jellybean" Benitez that was issued back in the day.

The short story is the LP version and the commercial 45 are one in the same (and not a remix even though the 45 label states so). Could it be possible that there were two different pressings of this single (one with the remix and one without)?
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