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    Posted: 12 October 2007 at 5:03pm
As Pat correctly shows in the database, DJ 45s state times of (4:17) and (4:35), with the actual time for the latter being (4:45). But the actual time of the listed (4:17) also runs :10 seconds longer, at (4:27).
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Pat, my commercial 45 has a listed time of (4:45). Your current database notation states that "commercial copies all run (4:45), even though the record label states (4:35)". Perhaps this commercial 45 was issued with two different listed times.
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My commercial 45 is Arista 9686 with matrix number AS1-9686-SAL-S2 and states a running time of (4:35).
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Pat, my stated (4:45) commercial 45 is also on Arista 9686, but mine has a matrix number of "AS1-9686-SAL-SP-1".
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My promo CD single for this is Arista ASCD-9686, released
1988, with just one track, denoted as "Single Version",
printed 4:45, actual 4:46.

To promo 45 version has found its way onto at least one
commercially available CD. I have it on Quality Canada's
This Is Music 5 (1989).

To recreate the promo 45, it's one easy edit from the LP
and commercial 45 version. Using timings from my promo
CD single:

Keep 0:00.0 to 3:24.4 of the LP/commercial 45 version.
Edit between in the middle of the word "go". The edit
occurs right at the first tambourine hit, so that it goes
edit-snare-second tambourine hit-downbeat.
Remove the 32 beats from 3:24.4 to 3:42.0.
Keep 3:42.0 to 4:46.6 (end) of the LP/commercial 45
version.

Your mixdown will run 4:28 if you don't put an early fade
on it, with an edit at 3:24.

My copy on This Is Music 5 fades at 4:20, but I
don't know if the true promo 45 fades at the same place,
or if This Is Music 5 fades early. I've seen many
other early fades on this series, so it wouldn't surprise
me if it's an artifact of this Canadian CD.

Everything runs at 109.0 BPM, so no pitch differences.

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Earlier this year a digital only compilation was released titled "And Now, Eric Carmen: The Arista Archive" with 25 tracks including live tracks, demos and alternate versions.

One of the rarities is the demo version of "Make Me Lose Control." The early version is titled "Long Live Rock & Roll."
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