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    Posted: 20 February 2025 at 9:38pm
This is one of many "banned" edits that their performers
just won't allow,same with so many others.Just wish that
the owners would release it.I still like both album and
singles of all BTO songs, don't get me wrong, but I'm just
a completist..:)
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Not sure what you mean by "banned edits the performers won't allow". Are you referring to the 3:13 promo edit?
Most promo edits, regardless of artist were never intended to be made available to the public in the first place, simply a method to make a
song more attractive to radio, whether for length, language, maybe a hotter mix.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 February 2025 at 10:19am
Nowadays, Sirius, iHeart and other companies play the LP
versions pretty much for the older songs as it's what the
public is used to as they stream those songs.

There are still radio edits for current and recent songs,
offered through subscription services like Promo Only.

I have always preferred the single/45 versions and radio
edits for the older songs. After all, isn't that why we are
here on this forum to discover where to find them? :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Carras Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 February 2025 at 8:27pm
Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Not sure what you mean by "banned edits
the performers won't allow". Are you referring to the
3:13 promo edit?
Most promo edits, regardless of artist were never
intended to be made available to the public in the first
place, simply a method to make a
song more attractive to radio, whether for length,
language, maybe a hotter mix.


I was being facetious,I mean the groups never allow the
singles edits... the hit single edit did exist
originally, in spring 1974.
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The commercial 45 was the same length as the LP.
DJ promos contained the LP version and the 3:13 edit.
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Originally posted by LunarLaugh LunarLaugh wrote:

The commercial 45 was the same length
as the LP.
DJ promos contained the LP version and the 3:13 edit.

thanks.
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Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

Nowadays, Sirius, iHeart and other
companies play the LP versions pretty much for the older songs
as it's what the public is used to as they stream those songs.

There are still radio edits for current and recent songs,
offered through subscription services like Promo Only.

I have always preferred the single/45 versions and radio
edits for the older songs. After all, isn't that why we are
here on this forum to discover where to find them? :)


My take is that there are several issues at play regarding single
edits:

One is that many of the programmers at those outlets featuring
older music may not even be aware of the existence of single
edits. Most may not have been alive or are old enough to
remember when the song was a hit so they never heard it back
in the day. For some it may also be a combination of don't know
& don't care.

Another factor is the availability of the single edits digitally or on
CD. If a single edit is not readily accessible many programmers
will just use the most easily available source rather than search
out the original single hit version or go to the bother of acquiring
a disc dub. Even when a single edit is available on CD they
often choose to ignore it.

Too many music programmers are musically unwise today. Not
to mention some are running multiple channels or radio stations
and do not have time to dig into the weeds to be sure they are
using the correct version of a song that was actually played on
the radio when it became a hit. Some programmers just may not
care. After all, how many people are TRULY knowledgeable
about multiple genres of music?

Then there are a some programmers that do not believe in
single edits and feel that the album versions are the only ones
that should be aired. Some may have roots in album rock radio
where there was always a distain for single edits.

Those are but a few of the reasons why single edits may not be
played.

A local AM station in my area airs a syndicated oldies format.
They play the LP versions of Spinning Wheel and 25 or 6 To 4.
Annoying.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2025 at 1:08am
Couldn't agree more, Ken. It's funny, until I discovered
this forum in 2007, I always knew that some songs were
shorter than what I had in my collection. And, thanks to
the collectors input in all of the discussions here over
the last 18 years, I now knew where to find the single
versions and radio edits I didn't already have.
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There were also stations that played BOTH single edits and
longer album versions. My local favorite, KDWB, would
often play the single version during the daytime and the
album version on nights and/or on weekends.

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I think you've all hit the nail on the head. I've
thought about this often...while most of us here are
quite familiar with single versions/edits from the
'70s/'80s, etc., how many of today's music fans would
even remember them?

I've done some DJ work the last few years (mostly
ballroom parties but I do throw some top 40 dance songs
in there as well). Sometimes I'll play a version of a
song that was unique to the 45 and hasn't been heard on
the radio in years. Most people probably wouldn't even
notice that the version of the song is a bit different,
or pay that much attention to it.

It seems for many, music is just sort of there and they
don't pay much attention to the mix (or even lyrics, for
that matter) as I do - and most of us here.

Too bad really.
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