ll cool j "mama said knock you out"

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   does anyone have a cd single for this song....the reason i ask is that the cassingle has a longer intro than the full cd version.....the intro sound like air rushing through a tube or a subtle cymbal roll.....the cassingle has it for a second or 2 while the full re-issue cd has the start of the song simultaneous with the vocals....i'm hoping the cd single either commercial, promo or import has the correct intro.......anyone??

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: ll cool j "mama said knock you out" Posted: 24 August 2006 at 5:28pm
	does anyone have a cd single for this song....the reason i ask is that the cassingle has a longer intro than the full cd version.....the intro sound like air rushing through a tube or a subtle cymbal roll.....the cassingle has it for a second or 2 while the full re-issue cd has the start of the song simultaneous with the vocals....i'm hoping the cd single either commercial, promo or import has the correct intro.......anyone??
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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 August 2006 at 7:44pm
	Ed, I have the dj cd single which has 4 different versions on it and the lead track is called the "original recipe" (short) version which does have that sound effect on the introduction but it runs (3:52). None of the other 3 versions on my cd single have that particular introduction. Does your cassette single run (4:48) like the LP? Edited by Pat Downey

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 August 2006 at 9:28pm
	yes.....the cassingle version is listed as "original recipe (long)" and runs 4:48....it is identical to the full length cd/lp version but the noise intro runs a bit longer than the cd version intro....i was hoping that the intro was a carry over from the previous track but that's NOT the case........the previous song ends cold........i was hoping someone had the cd single that might have the correct intro...
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 163	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 August 2006 at 10:59pm
	Ed, I have the full-length album, promo CD single, and commercial CD single for "Mama Said Knock You Out." You are correct that the sound effects are a tad bit longer at the beginning on the CD single versions. The commercial CD single has the Original Receipe (long) version that is on your cassingle.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 September 2006 at 12:49pm
	ok...i just purchased the commercial cd single that was issued at the time as def jam/columbia 44k 73703 and it is indeed identical to the cassingle version....the only difference is the intro is a second longer on the cassingle/cd sgl than on the full cd/lp version..........ok, now..........what do we do about this one..........related to the alanah myles issue..........do we state in the db that all version are the lp version all for a second longer pipe intro....again....the 2 versions (full cd and single) are different.....and if we are going to be consistant should we also NOT differentiate these 2 version.........anyone???
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 163	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 September 2006 at 12:57pm
	Ed, that's a great question. It goes back to the question "where do we draw the line?" The sound effects at the beginning of the single are actually more like a half second longer...not even a full second. Other than that, there is no other difference between the two. As a reader/subscriber of the database, what do you think would be best? Personally, I think a note next to the song title would do the trick. Reading "LP version" next to each entry would make me think there is a reason I should track down the 45 version. It's another case where I would be disappointed to learn that the only difference is this split second of extra sound effects is it. Perhaps the comment: Beginning sound effects on the commercial single start a half second earlier than the LP version. (a note at the top)

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 September 2006 at 10:34am
	Looks like Pat is going with the 45 version/LP version designation. This one is a very tough call where a good case can probably be made either way.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 58	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2022 at 5:04pm
	Does anyone have edit points for the original recipe short version?
	John Gallagher Erie, PA John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 58	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2022 at 8:54pm
	I managed to find it online.
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chendagam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 August 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote chendagam Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2022 at 6:17pm
	I have always been curious about the following: Did radio stations play the "original recipe short" or the "original recipe long (aka lp version)" back in 1991?