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    Posted: 23 December 2006 at 1:28pm
The database currently shows that this is unavailable on a domestic CD. But I have had it for 15 years, on the released-in-1991 "Dr. Demento's 20th Anniversary Collection: The Greatest Novelty Records Of All Time", a 2-CD set, on Rhino 70743. Its CD appearance runs (3:26), is (M), and has no intro. However, my 1966 commercial 45 has a listed time of (2:57), an actual time of (2:54), and features a :09 intro. Obviously, my CD version is not the original 45 version. I am not sure if simple 45 edits account for the differences, or if different "live" takes were utilized. I've gone as far as I can go, guys. I'll be happy to shoot both versions out to any willing "expert ear" for analysis.
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If you look at the database under Frank Gallop you will see that it is included but with the comment that it is neither the 45 nor LP version. The reason you see the red flag in the index of songs that have never been released on cd is that if a song is released on cd but is a rerecording or mastered poorly from a vinyl record or is neither the 45 nor LP version that cannot be edited down to the 45 or LP version, then I flag it with the "not on cd" symbol.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jimct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2006 at 4:59pm
I didn't release that something could have the red symbol, but still have chart data listings affixed - I was uncertain it was definitely a re-recording. I'm gonna go right now and re-read your database's "obscure rules sub-text." :) Sorry for the goof.
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Going by what I have read on the BSN board, there was a Canadian 45 that used the "ten-gallon yarmulke" line, while the U.S. 45 contained the "schlepping a salami and pumpernickel bread" line. But that topic also reports that the Dr. Demento cd source is stereo, not mono.

If you want to shell out $116, you can buy the soundtrack to "When You're In Love, The Whole World Is Jewish" sountrack on cd from Amazon, but the BSN topic also seems to indicate that the version from that soundtrack lp/cd is missing a verse that the 45 contained. Go figure....this is one of several Comedy recordings that I'd still love to see turn up on cd in it's original 45 version, be it mono or stereo.
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Tom: You're right on the (S) on the Demento CD - I'm currently battling an intermittent loose headphone connection - if it's the slightest bit off, I hear mono when it's stereo. Thanks for the "Whole World..." soundtrack tip.
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Originally posted by TomDiehl1 TomDiehl1 wrote:


If you want to shell out $116, you can buy the soundtrack to "When You're In Love, The Whole World Is Jewish" sountrack on cd from Amazon


I have this disc (Rhino R2 71084). "The Ballad of Irving" appears here with the "schlepping a salami and pumpernickel bread" lyric.

$116?!?

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Pat, could you perhaps shed some light as to why the "You Don't Have To Be Jewish" album is a "neither" version? Just curious...

By the way, the album was re-released in February, so you can get if for $16 again, as opposed to $116!
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My commercial 45 and the original pressings of "When You're In Love The Whole World Is Jewish" (from what I am told) feature the line "with a ten gallon yarmulke on his head" but the cd changes the line to "schlepping a salami".
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What are the matrix numbers on your 45 of it, Pat? I don't own the single but I've seen a few people on BSN mention that their 45s do state "schlepping a salami" so ill try to get matrix info from them.
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Tom And Pat, my commercial 45 features the "schlepping a salami" lyric, and makes no mention of the "ten gallon yarmulke on his head" lyric. My deadwax is "K-9547-8".
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