Ronnie Dove-4 1966 wrong listed times

I have commercial 45s for all 4 of these 1966 Top 40 database entries, and I have discovered, that for:

"When Liking Turns To Loving"-the listed time is (2:36), but the actual time is (2:50).

"Let's Start All Over Again"-the listed time is (2:30), but the actual time is (2:38).

"I Really Don't Want To Know"-the listed time is (2:49), but the actual time is (3:02).

"Happy Summer Days"-the listed time is (2:08), but the actual time is (2:17).

Not surprisingly, and to further reiterate the point Tom has already made above, I have also just uncovered a timing error for Dove's 5th and final 1966 Top 40 hit, "Cry". My commercial 45 (confirmed as Diamond 214, is vinyl, with deadwax info of "D214A") has a listed time of (2:47), but an actual time of (2:56). FYI, the three current database CDs that include this song all run either (2:56) or (2:57).

We can add one more from 1965. My U.S. commercial 45 of "I'll Make All Your Dreams Come True" (Diamond 188) states the run time as (2:29), but I timed it at (2:38).

Hykker wrote: Not to mention the fact that the quality of vinyl used rivals that of Dunhill 45s of that period as far as noisy pressings go.

The Diamond label was one of those rare instances where the Monarch-pressed styrene 45s turned out to be the holy grails. The non-west coast Diamond 45s were actually pressed on medium-grit sandpaper, spray-painted black.

The east cost promotional copies were usually on translucent brown vinyl which played a whole lot nicer than their standard stock copies did.

Strange things went on back then... the two Kolsky brothers ran the Diamond label and a third brother owned one of the east coast pressing plants the records got pressed up at... they would charge distributors for 100,000 copies of a single and send them 150,000 copies, they would write off promotional copies against artist royalties (often times pressing up many, many more promotional copies than needed -- and then selling those at lower costs in some stores). Some of the stories I've heard over the years actually confirm a lot of things Tommy James talks about in his book (as a lot of these record guys in New York were from the same mafia).

Actually, I try to find Canadian pressings when I can, they're usually on good vinyl and use the US stampers.