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    Posted: 02 January 2007 at 6:42am
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the 45's face states the run time as 4:05 but it actually runs 4:11 like many of the cds in the db......the 4:05 cd versions listed in the db are faded about 0:05 early....

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The length of 'Karma Chameleon' on many CDs is about 3:58, which was the 45 length in the UK (and perhaps other countries).

In the case of another Culture Club song, 'The War Song', the database mentions a 45 length and an LP length, but the 45 is actually an edit. (The edit is near the end of the song.)

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at what point is the edit??...because i can't detect any edit.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2007 at 5:52pm
Ed, the edit is at about 3:25.

After Mr. O'Dowd has sung the chorus for the last time (and while the background singers continue to repeat the chorus), he sings "No more war; Say no more war: Say war." At this point on the 45, he twice sings a line I've never been able to decipher (I don't think it's in English). On the LP version, he continues to repeat the "No more war" line, or variances thereof, several more times before he starts singing the mystery line.

I know this isn't a lyrics board, but does anyone have any idea what he's actually singing?
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ok...i just listened to my 45 versus a cdr copy of the song that runs 3:57....i don't know where i got the original but the 3:57 version i have on cdr is identical to the version from the commercial 45.....so....looking at the db.....the 3:57 version should really say "45 version" and not "45 length".....pat...please make this amendement on the board....
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According to abagon, the commercial 45 run time of Culture Club's "Karma Chameleon" is 4:10, not 4:05 as stated on the record label. Ed reported very similar run time info in the initial post of this thread, but then he later claimed his 45 actually runs 3:57. So do we have two different 45 pressings here?
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Todd, I think Ed was referring to "The War Song" and not "Karma Chameleon" (at least that's how I read his 3:57 post).
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Now that you mention it, Pat, I think you're probably right about Ed's 3:57 post referring to "The War Song". Sorry for the confusion, Ed!
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

According to abagon, the commercial 45 run time of Culture Club's "Karma Chameleon" is 4:10, not 4:05 as stated on the record label. Ed reported very similar run time info in the initial post of this thread, but then he later claimed his 45 actually runs 3:57. So do we have two different 45 pressings here?


Just thought I'd bump this thread back up to the front page because the run time info hasn't yet been incorporated into the database. I know I've posted a ton of run time info for '80s hits on the message board as of late, so it's perfectly understandable if a couple items have slipped through the cracks!

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Originally posted by Paul C Paul C wrote:

Ed, the edit is at about 3:25.

After Mr. O'Dowd has sung the chorus for the last time (and while the background singers continue to repeat the chorus), he sings "No more war; Say no more war: Say war." At this point on the 45, he twice sings a line I've never been able to decipher (I don't think it's in English). On the LP version, he continues to repeat the "No more war" line, or variances thereof, several more times before he starts singing the mystery line.

I know this isn't a lyrics board, but does anyone have any idea what he's actually singing?


He is saying "Senso Hantai" which is Japanese and loosely translates to "no more war."
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