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Taylor Dayne - Tell It To My Heart |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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There are a number of CDs out there on which this track slows down by about 2% near the end of the song.
I've noticed this effect on a handful of other songs, including the short edit of "Freeway of Love" by Aretha Franklin, "Hold Me Now" by the Thompson Twins, "Everybody Have Fun Tonight" by Wang Chung, "Whip It" by Devo, "Seasons Change" by Expose, the single edit of "Don't Shed A Tear" by Paul Carrack, and a few Jimmy Jam Harris & Terry Lewis tracks including the single version of "Monkey" by George Michael. (I don't really understand why a bunch of these are on Arista.) While I'm not 100% sure what causes this, one possible explanation is that the tape deck is set for one size playback reel, and the actual playback reel is a different size. It's possible - I remember the multi-track deck in my first radio station had a large/small reel control. Regardless, it's probably a tape drag effect, and I don't like it. Anyway, here are my findings. Timings are total track time. The following CDs have the tape drag effect. The first two CDs in the list have a starting tempo of about 118.6 BPM and an ending tempo of about 116.1 BPM, to give you idea of how much drag is involved:
The following CDs have no tape drag, but run too slow throughout the track:
These CDs have no tape drag, and all run at the proper tempo of 118.1 BPM throughout:
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Very interesting notes. I noticed all your listings are various artist compilatons and I only have the song on Taylor Dayne CDs. Can anyone tell which of her CDs have the sudden-slowdown near the end and which run at a constant speed throughout?
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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I also documented the slow down problem with song in the "mastering error" thread (at least I think that's where I posted it). I seem to recall Ed or someone else saying that the Taylor Dayne full-length CD does not have the slow down problem.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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That was me, Aaron. I commented in the "Mastering Errors" thread that there is no pitch problem with "Tell It to My Heart" on Taylor Dayne's Greatest Hits CD (Arista 18774). The sound quality and audio levels are excellent on that disc.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Thanks, Todd!
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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What about the Rhino CDs, like "Disco Queens"? Is that one with the proper pitch?
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Two more CDs that play at the correct pitch and don't have the tape drag problem:
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Sony recently released a Playlist cd for Taylor Dayne, which has some interesting things. One is it claims to have the single mix of "Tell It to My Heart". But I don't really think there is one. No one's pointed anything out here, and the database doesn't indicate "single version". I recall when I compared my 45 to the CD about 25 years ago, I noticed the 45 was a lot brighter than the CD, but felt it was just an EQ issue and not a mix one. Of course, my ears back then were not as good, so maybe someone else knows something about this. Has anyone compared the 45 with the LP/CD?
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Indy500 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The 12" Club Mix is available on Pure... 80's remixes" a 2014 4-CD set from
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Cool - to get this on an official CD, it's always an expensive CD (usually import). But this 4 CD set goes for $8 + postage on Amazon. Thanks for the info.
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