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    Posted: 09 July 2007 at 8:08pm
There are a number of CDs out there on which this track slows down by about 2% near the end of the song.

I've noticed this effect on a handful of other songs, including the short edit of "Freeway of Love" by Aretha Franklin, "Hold Me Now" by the Thompson Twins, "Everybody Have Fun Tonight" by Wang Chung, "Whip It" by Devo, "Seasons Change" by Expose, the single edit of "Don't Shed A Tear" by Paul Carrack, and a few Jimmy Jam Harris & Terry Lewis tracks including the single version of "Monkey" by George Michael. (I don't really understand why a bunch of these are on Arista.) While I'm not 100% sure what causes this, one possible explanation is that the tape deck is set for one size playback reel, and the actual playback reel is a different size. It's possible - I remember the multi-track deck in my first radio station had a large/small reel control. Regardless, it's probably a tape drag effect, and I don't like it.

Anyway, here are my findings. Timings are total track time.

The following CDs have the tape drag effect. The first two CDs in the list have a starting tempo of about 118.6 BPM and an ending tempo of about 116.1 BPM, to give you idea of how much drag is involved:
  • After Hours (Silver Eagle/Warner Special Products OPCD-4523, 1990; 3:38)
  • Everything '80s (Razor & Tie /Warner Special Products OPCD-4560, 1995; 3:41)
  • Rock On 1987 (Madacy ROK-2-1987, 1996; 3:41)
  • Hot Moves (JCI JCD-2702, 1989; 3:38; plays faster than above CDs, but still has drag at end)
  • It's Only Rock & Roll 1985-1989: #1 Radio Hits (I don't have this CD, but it appeared in an earlier post about this defect.)

The following CDs have no tape drag, but run too slow throughout the track:
  • Hot Sounds (PolyTel Canada 836 076-2, 1988; 3:41; 117.6 BPM throughout, or about 0.4% too slow)
  • The Hits Album 8 (CBS/BMG/WEA [UK] CD Hits 8, 1988; 3:40; 117.7 BPM throughout, or about 0.3% too slow)

These CDs have no tape drag, and all run at the proper tempo of 118.1 BPM throughout:
  • The "A" List Disc 43 (Swaitek, 1994; 3:42)
  • Gold & Platinum Volume 6 (Realm 1CD 7899, 1989; 3:40)
  • Now 1988 (Virgin EMI PolyGram UK 8 27074 2, 1993; 3:36; accelerated fade at 3:33, compared to others in this group)
  • Rock The First (Sandstone D233046-2, 1992; 3:41; mastered by Steve Hoffman, and the best-sounding of the bunch, although the Now disc isn't far behind)
  • Sounds Of The Eighties - The Late '80s (Time-Life R988-19, 1996; 3:41)


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Very interesting notes. I noticed all your listings are various artist compilatons and I only have the song on Taylor Dayne CDs. Can anyone tell which of her CDs have the sudden-slowdown near the end and which run at a constant speed throughout?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 July 2007 at 7:53pm
I also documented the slow down problem with song in the "mastering error" thread (at least I think that's where I posted it). I seem to recall Ed or someone else saying that the Taylor Dayne full-length CD does not have the slow down problem.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Ireland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2007 at 2:16pm
That was me, Aaron. I commented in the "Mastering Errors" thread that there is no pitch problem with "Tell It to My Heart" on Taylor Dayne's Greatest Hits CD (Arista 18774). The sound quality and audio levels are excellent on that disc.
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Thanks, Todd!
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What about the Rhino CDs, like "Disco Queens"? Is that one with the proper pitch?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2007 at 9:35pm
Two more CDs that play at the correct pitch and don't have the tape drag problem:
  • Tell It To My Heart (Arista ARCD-8529, 1988; 3:41, same analog transfer but different EQ from Time-Life's The Late '80s CD above)
  • 80s Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 8 Dance Party (Priority P2 53732, 1993; 3:41)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote EdisonLite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2013 at 6:54am
Sony recently released a Playlist cd for Taylor Dayne, which has some interesting things. One is it claims to have the single mix of "Tell It to My Heart". But I don't really think there is one. No one's pointed anything out here, and the database doesn't indicate "single version". I recall when I compared my 45 to the CD about 25 years ago, I noticed the 45 was a lot brighter than the CD, but felt it was just an EQ issue and not a mix one. Of course, my ears back then were not as good, so maybe someone else knows something about this. Has anyone compared the 45 with the LP/CD?
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The 12" Club Mix is available on Pure... 80's remixes" a 2014 4-CD set from
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Cool - to get this on an official CD, it's always an expensive CD (usually import). But this 4 CD set goes for $8 + postage on Amazon. Thanks for the info.

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