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    Posted: 12 November 2007 at 6:54am
I have two different promo CD singles for this:

Don Henley-"The Last Worthless Evening" (PRO-CD-3734)
1-7" Edit (listed 4:28; actual 4:29)
2-Edit/Long Intro (listed 4:35; actual 4:36)

Don Henley-"The Last Worthless Evening" (PRO-CD-3834)
1-New Mix (listed 4:28; actual 4:29)

I will soon send mp3's for both of the actual 4:29 versions out to my 'go-to-version-expert", Aaron K, for him to confirm that the two are indeed different mixes, and not just a "marketing ploy" by Geffen.
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MARKETING PLOY! Track 1 on both promo CDs are the exact same mix; however, I did find one thing interesting. The "New Mix" does run 0.66% faster and fades about a second and a half later. (They do have exactly the same run time, as Jim correctly notes above. The faster pitch of the "New Mix" is what allows it to have a later fade, but the same run time.)

I can't hear any mix differences whatsoever, even with my V600 headphones on. Maybe Jim can give us some marketing insight. Was this song quickly becoming a stiff, so the label delivered this "New Mix" to try to save it?
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A simple answer here, my friend: YES!
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I've noticed Geffen used this little marketing ploy with many of their early '90s promo CD singles. Thanks to you guys, I don't have to worry about seeking out a promo copy of the so-called "New Mix" of "The Last Worthless Evening" since I already have this version on the other promo single!

On a side note... Aaron, aren't those Sony-V600 headphones terrific? I've been using them for ten years (now on my second pair)! ;-)
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

... Aaron, aren't those Sony-V600 headphones terrific? I've been using them for ten years (now on my second pair)! ;-)

You can say that again, Todd. I bought my first pair in 1994, and I'm just about ready to buy my third pair! They sound excellent, and they hold up really well. The only reason I've gone though so many pair is that they've gotten pretty beat up working in radio every day. I'd be willing to bet that no single pair of V600s exist with as many hours of use as my current pair, which I use on the air and for my many hours of home audio projects!
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Yep, Aaron! I know of other audio engineers who swear by those headphones as well. I don't think you can find a pair that boasts better sound reproduction and clarity for the money!
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Anyone remember using the Koss Pro 4AA's? First set of headphones I ever used in the mid 70's when I, as a teenager, made my radio debut.

Hopefully, you guys can see this image of me...from 1978!
http://start.djgold.com/talk/attach_files/radiojohn_181.jpg


Back on subject, I ordered a promo for this song last week. Trying to locate a promo for "The Heart Of The Matter" has been a little more difficult for me.

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My promo 45 for "The Last Worthless Evening" came in today. Labeled as the 7" edit, listed time is 4:28, actual is 4:29, matching the time in the database. Deadwax info is: 7-22-771-DJ-SR1 DMM
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Pat has graciously incorporated all the DJ single info for "The Last Worthless Evening" into the database as provided by the good folks on this message thread. I thought I'd also pass along that the song's actual commercial 45 run time is 6:03. (Run time info courtesy of abagon. The printed record label time is 6:05.)

Abagon also informs me he has a U.S. pressing of Don Henley's The End of the Innocence vinyl LP. He reports the actual LP time of "The Last Worthless Evening" is 6:01, not 6:05 as stated on the record label and runs slightly faster than the 45, thus accounting for the :02 difference between the 45 and LP.
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

I've noticed Geffen used this little marketing ploy with many of their early '90s promo CD singles.



Wasn't just 90's promo CDs. I have a couple of mid-80s Geffen vinyl promo singles they did this on as well. Elton John's "Sad Songs" comes to mind immediately. Other Warner Bros. distributed labels did the same thing. I have 2 promo singles of "And She Was"-Talking Heads. Any mix differences between the two are indiscernable to me, but one is labeled "new mix" or something along that line.



Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

Anyone remember using the Koss Pro 4AA's?


I had a pair of them back in the 70s. Sounded good, but were the heaviest set of headphones I ever owned. Called 'em "the earcrushers".
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