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    Posted: 31 May 2008 at 4:26pm
my commercial 45 issued as mca/carousel 51223 contains a non described version with a listed run time of 3:35 but actually runs 3:34 and is identical to the version from the cd "king cool"....



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Thanks for your nice scan images, as always, edtop40.

My stock 45's actual running time is (3:32), but the listed time is "3:35". The record label is the same as ed's scan image. The run-out groove number is "MC 12034 W2".
The CD track on the "King Cool" runs (3:33). The CD track ends the word of "you" of "Love can rock you" lyric. but my stock 45 ends the word "can" of it.
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I noticed that the mix of "Love Is Like A Rock" on the 20th Century Millenium disc of Donnie Iris sounds a bit different than I remember from the 45.
The mix on the CD seems a bit dry while the 45 version has a bit more reverb in its mix.
His music still airs on the classic rock station in Pittsburgh.
the way it was heard on the radio
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I double-checked the commercial 45 run time info with abagon and he now claims the actual time is 3:31, not 3:35 as stated on the record label.   This is :03 shorter than the actual time Ed reports, so are we looking at two different pressings here?
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As with the thread on "Love Is The Answer" by England Dan and John Ford Coley, if we do in fact have two different pressings here, I would be curious as to whether we can identify them as having come from two different plants. From what I understand, MCA had its own pressing plants. They had two facilities, one in Gloversville, New York, the other in Pinckneyville, Illinois. During the time period in question, each plant stamped an identifying symbol in the trail-off vinyl. The Gloversville symbol is two squares joined by a line, with a "G" superimposed over the line. The Pinckneyville symbol is two diamonds joined by a line, with a "P" superimposed over the line.      
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Pat:

Now the comment of this song on the db is "commercial 45's were pressed in lengths of (3:41) and (3:44) not (3:45 as stated on the record label."

Please modify to "(3:31) and (3:34) not (3:35) as..."

I'm so grateful for your updating my run time info, as always.

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Originally posted by MCT1 MCT1 wrote:

if we do in fact have two different pressings here, I would be curious as to whether we can identify them as having come from two different plants. From what I understand, MCA had its own pressing plants.       


What confused me is that I have some MCA 45s with a "70 Universal Plaza" address, and some with "100 Universal Plaza" address. Most of the ones I own have the "70" address, but it always confused me as to why they were two different ones, especially since they seem to be talking about the same place.
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Originally posted by torcan torcan wrote:

What confused me is that I have some MCA 45s with a "70 Universal Plaza" address, and some with "100 Universal Plaza" address. Most of the ones I own have the "70" address, but it always confused me as to why they were two different ones, especially since they seem to be talking about the same place.

Very interesting -- I've never noticed that before, but after pulling out some 45s by a sampling of a few artists who were on MCA (Tom Petty, Elton John, The Fixx), I see what you're talking about. I can't detect any pattern to it either. It doesn't seem to be chronological, or indicative of which pressing plant a particular record was made at, or of stock/promo status.

I have stock and promo copies of Elton John's "Candle In the Wind" (the 1987 release of the song). My stock copy was pressed at Gloversville and has 70 in the address; my promo was pressed at Pinckneyville and has 100 in the address. I don't think the plant and stock/promo variations account for the difference in the address, though. I have stock copies (of other titles) with a 100 address, and I have records that came from the the same plant (again, not necessarily the same title) with both 70 and 100 addresses.       
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Originally posted by bwolfe bwolfe wrote:

I noticed that the mix of "Love Is Like A Rock" on the 20th Century Millenium disc of Donnie Iris sounds a bit different than I remember from the 45.
The mix on the CD seems a bit dry while the 45 version has a bit more reverb in its mix.


Just curious if anyone has looked further into this? Could there perhaps even be a mix difference between the 45 and LP?
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The actual vinyl LP running time is (3:32), the listed time is "3:35" on the LP record label. (LP title "King Cool" MCA/Carousel MCA-5237)
I don't feel a mix difference between the vinyl LP and the 45.

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