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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Both of my commercial 45 copies, which are mono and confirmed as Atco 6590, have a listed time of (2:50) and an actual time of (2:52). I only post this info because both of my 45 copies fade out, and do NOT end cold. All current database CDs that specify "45 version", end cold, and feature slightly longer run times, at either (2:57) or (2:58). To quote my good friend EdTop40, the "true" 45 version can be created by starting a pretty quick, severe fade at (2:47), to (2:52). To me, the 45's ending sounds very strange; I always thought the cold ending was a highlight of the song. Perhaps Atco thought at the time that leaving in the cold ending would've made the song sound "too AOR". It couldn't be a run time issue, because even with the cold end included, it still clocks in at less than (3:00). I would suspect that someone here must remember playing/hearing this faded 45 version on Top 40 radio back in 1967 and/or 1968 - anyone?
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Gary Mack ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I remember playing that one in my DJ days, and we (KRIZ/Phoenix) played both the 45 and LP versions (probably nights only). The single faded - I don't recall a 45 with the cold ending.
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Jim, my 1968 Atco 6590 mono promo 45 is identical to the fade endings and (2:52) timings on your commercial 45s.
The fade is a little hasty, that's for sure, but the last 1.1 seconds stay at the same very low level. And you're right, it was so "close to home" that the fade seemed unnecessary. If it was done to provide top-40 jocks with a fadeout to talk over, it didn't really matter, what with it being all-instrumental well before that point, anyway. This appears to be one of those cases where the most sensible approach has won out: the 45 edit was excellent, but the fadeout was pointless, so the cold ending has become the default short version everyone knows and hears today. Even most of us purists can live with this one. ![]() |
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MCT1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 December 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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From the database, it appears that all CD issues of this song are mono, regardless of whether they are the 45 or LP version, except for one re-recording. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the original 45 was in mono, but a quick web search indicates that the parent Vanilla Fudge LP was available in both mono and stereo -- and given that commerically released mono LPs were on their last legs in 1967-68, I would expect that the stereo version was probably by far the better seller of the two. Based on that, I would have assumed that the LP version, at least, would be readily available in stereo. Does anyone know why all the CD issues of the LP version are in mono? Is this song actually in mono on the original stereo Vanilla Fudge LP?
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MPH711 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The song is not stereo on the stereo LP.
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TomDiehl1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Shadow Morton had recorded this song as a demo and had not intended it to be commercially released, so he never mixed the song into stereo. Reportedly he still has posession of the original 8-track session master still, but no true stereo issue of the song exists on any commercial release anywhere in the world.
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Live in stereo.
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TomDiehl1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I just discovered that I have this song on a promotional EP, Atco SP-4516, it is the 2nd song on side A, it has a listed time of 2:50 but an actual playing time of 2:56 and ends cold.
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Live in stereo.
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Nice one, Tom!
The Atlantic/Atco promo EPs were interesting, since they didn't always reflect the regular 45 versions. The B-side of Iron Butterfly's "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" was a 3:27 edit of "Iron Butterfly Theme," an instrumental from their first LP Heavy. Yet the Heavy promo EP contained the entire 4:35 album cut. Edited by Yah Shure |
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MCT1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 December 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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On Youtube, there is a vintage clip of the band lip-synching to the 45 version on a TV show, in which the song ends cold, without the early fade. Perhaps the show got its audio off of the same EP that Tom has. Another possibility, if the clip is from somewhere outside the U.S. (its country of origin was not clear to me), is that the unfaded version may have been used on the single in other countries.
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MPH711 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I had the cold ending edit version on a K-Tel or Ronco LP. I can't get my hands on it to see which one. I can sure picture the cover in my head.
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