fleetwood mac "say you love me"

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   my commercial 45 issued as reprise 1356 states a run  time on the label as 3:58 as well as the notation "edited" but actually runs 4:00....and is identical to the version on the cd below....

(S) (4:00) Reprise 73881  Fleetwood Mac (Expanded Edition)  (45 version)

this s/b noted in the db.... 

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: fleetwood mac "say you love me" Posted: 01 January 2009 at 1:45pm
	my commercial 45 issued as reprise 1356 states a run time on the label as 3:58 as well as the notation "edited" but actually runs 4:00....and is identical to the version on the cd below.... (S) (4:00) Reprise 73881 Fleetwood Mac (Expanded Edition) (45 version) this s/b noted in the db....
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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 43	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 September 2016 at 1:14pm
	LP version (runs about 4:11) The opening piano chords are centered. The version on the green 1988 Greatest Hits sounds good, but it's missing the first 0.03 seconds of the opening note. There's a digital clone on Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 4 1976-1977 (2000; 1.474 dB louder), which also has the opening 0.03 seconds cut off. The opening note is fully intact on the 2-CD Very Best Of (2002), and the fade starts in the right spot, but hastens the fade by about 10 seconds. The opening note is fully intact on Razor & Tie's 2-CD Super '70s (1995), and the fade extends a little longer than Greatest Hits. I strongly suspect that this mastering is based on the Fleetwood Mac CD, but can't confirm. 45 version (runs about 4:00) The opening piano chords are panned to the right. The rest of the mix is different, too, with extra guitar overdubs throughout. I think the version on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 4 1976 (1989) matches the 45. It runs 3:58 here, and has the opening note fully intact. It runs a little bit faster than the LP version. The version on 25 Years The Chain is the 45 mix, runs slower than the 45 but faster than the LP, and edits out about 15 seconds of stuff near the end of the song. The fade points match the fade points on the Time-Life CD. There's a digital clone on Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 23 1976 (1996; 0.7 dB louder). My recommendation for the LP version: *Fleetwood Mac, which I don't have, but should be significantly less expensive than Razor & Tie's 2-CD Super '70s* (1995). My recommendation for the 45 version: *Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 4 1976* (1989)**.
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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 43	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 September 2016 at 8:18pm
	Thanks to John P, I can confirm that the Razor & Tie disc uses the same analog transfer as the West German target pressing of Fleetwood Mac. The sound is excellent on Fleetwood Mac. Greatest Hits is actually a differently EQ'd digital clone of the West German target pressing of Fleetwood Mac, but with the attack of the opening note cut off, and fading a little earlier. Now I can wholeheartedly recommend *Fleetwood Mac* for the LP version.
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Paul Haney Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Haney Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2016 at 4:08am
	Most classic rock and oldies stations have been playing the LP version for so many years now, that the 45 version sounds a bit jarring these days, but it's the one I remember hearing on Top 40 radio at the time.