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    Posted: 22 October 2005 at 12:54pm
did we ever determine if the correct remix version of the 45 was ever issued on cd........does the billboard cd top hits of 1981 contain the correct version.....rhino is usually pretty good about getting the correct "hit" versions on these cds.......
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I don't think it does. The Rhino CD uses a slightly different edit (there's a distinct edit in the guitar solo on the 45 that's not used on the Rhino CD--the edit on that CD is too smooth). I don't have any of the other CDs with the 45 version on it to check, though.

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I spent a great deal of time editing the Hall & Oates hits to match the 45s; however, I used the Billboard Top Hits 1981 as the source for "Kiss On My List." It seems to me that I checked the 45 with this disc and Rhino has the correct edit. I am not aware of it being a different mix, although the "UK Mix" appeared on a Japanese 12" Mix CD. It was just over three minutes and had a different drum track and was mixed slightly different.

As for the Billboard disc, I'll have to check again to be sure, because I thought it was correct. Doug, where is the edit different?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 October 2005 at 7:46am
Check your E-mail, Aaron, if you haven't already. I tried to do a side by side comparison that I couldn't do justice to by trying to explain it here.

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By golly, Doug, you're right! Thanks to Edtop40 who just e-mailed me a dub of his 45, it can be concluded that the version on Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1981 cd is NOT the correct 45 version. They made an error in editing the guitar solo.

Now, the next question is which CD can the correct 45 version be found on, or is this another one that has never appeared in its correct version on cd?
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Always happy to help. As I said before, I don't have any of the other CDs that have an edited version (save for Rock & Soul, Part 1 which clearly isn't the 45 version [and was noted as such in Pat's database]). So I can't answer the next question.

The editing error is very subtle, but it is indeed an error. Luckily, the 45 is relatively easy to edit from the LP version (and Rhino only made the one editing error in the guitar solo, otherwise the 45 version is correct).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 October 2005 at 9:27pm
you guys are great........let's see if we can RE-create the 45 version with a computer program.
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By the way, I made a mistake earlier in my post. The "UK Mix" is of "Private Eyes" not "Kiss On My List." To my knowledge, there was only one mix of that song (the LP mix) and an edit of the mix to make the 45 version.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:34am
I guess I should post this for the record (pun fully intended), just in case anyone's interested.

In trying to decipher whether the Rhino edit was the correct one, edtop40 E-mailed Aaron and me his 45 copy. I then loaded Ed's 45, my Rhino 1981 CD version and the LP version (which I took from the Class Reunion 1981 compilation CD) into WavePad. The Rhino CD made all of the edits correctly with one exception--details now follow:

On the LP version, the instrumental break starts at (2:56.44)--while Hall is holding the note on the word "light." On the 45, the same break starts at (2:36.93); on the Rhino CD, it's (2:37.14--close enough). I'll now quote the LP times the rest of the way. The break for the 45 and LP runs the same until (3:06.06)--the 45 then cuts to the guitar note at roughly (3:21.90). Now applying the times for the break between the LP version and my Rhino version--the break runs the same until (3:05.46), then my Rhino version cuts to (3:21.21). It is very subtle, but the edit is not exactly the same.

I say "my" Rhino in the (unlikely) event that Rhino came out with a different pressing of this CD. But that's how I came up with my theory. Hope y'all enjoyed it.

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Since it's been determined the true 45 edit of "Kiss on My List" evidently does not appear on the Billboard Top Pop Hits 1981 CD, I'd say this situation warrants the comment: (edit of the LP version in an unsuccessful attempt at recreating the 45 version).
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