single mix of We Got the Beat?

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   Don't know if this ever came up before, but on the Return to the Valley of the Go-Go's CD, it says (single mix) on this track. I just compared it to the version on the Beauty and the Beat CD 44797 5021 2, and i'm not sure if my ears are trying to find a difference, but I found that the "return" version seems a lot fuller and bass heavy while the "beauty" version is less muddy and clearer (personally, the fuller version sounds more like what I remember hearing for years). Perhaps it's the difference in mastering and volume levels and not a 'mix' difference at all. Not sure. 

Also of note, my copy of Beauty and the Beat is actually defective in that it cuts off the very first beat of Our Lips are Sealed. Does anyone else have this CD who could tell me if that was a mastering error or if I have a defective CD (no worries, because I have the song on dozens of other comps, just curious). Thanks.

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budaniel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote budaniel Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: single mix of We Got the Beat? Posted: 29 March 2011 at 4:17pm
	Don't know if this ever came up before, but on the Return to the Valley of the Go-Go's CD, it says (single mix) on this track. I just compared it to the version on the Beauty and the Beat CD 44797 5021 2, and i'm not sure if my ears are trying to find a difference, but I found that the "return" version seems a lot fuller and bass heavy while the "beauty" version is less muddy and clearer (personally, the fuller version sounds more like what I remember hearing for years). Perhaps it's the difference in mastering and volume levels and not a 'mix' difference at all. Not sure. Also of note, my copy of Beauty and the Beat is actually defective in that it cuts off the very first beat of Our Lips are Sealed. Does anyone else have this CD who could tell me if that was a mastering error or if I have a defective CD (no worries, because I have the song on dozens of other comps, just curious). Thanks.

Roscoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Roscoe Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 March 2011 at 5:51pm
	My copy of Beauty & The Beat also has that truncated first beat on "Our Lips Are Sealed". I asked about it on another forum years ago and most responses indicated that their CD did not have the problem. So it appears that the mastering error was corrected at some point. With regard to "We Got The Beat", the single mix vs. LP mix is something I have been meaning to investigate over the years but never got around to it. I didn't recall any noticeable mix differences between my 45 and the LP (both of which I bought in 1982) and was confused when some Go-Go's comps began referring to a single mix. Sometimes it can be very difficult to distinguish between a punchier mix vs. big mastering differences (e.g. compression and eq). I'll try to give these a comparison one of these days and see if I can determine if there is a true mix difference.

Underground Dub Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 July 2006 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Underground Dub Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 March 2011 at 9:24pm
	There were two recordings of "We Got The Beat". The first was issued in the UK on Stiff records and the second a year later for the IRS release Beauty And The Beat. The second version was the US single release and, if I'm not mistaken, the description "(Single Mix)" was used on Return To The Valley Of The Go-Go's to differentiate between the two recordings. The CD Single for "The Whole World Lost Its Head" (from 'Valley') contains the first version of WGTB with no description beyond the title. So, according to the Return To The Valley Of The Go-Go's era: - "We Got The Beat" = UK Stiff single version - "We Got The Beat (Single Mix)" = IRS Beauty And The Beat version (US single)

AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Online Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 March 2011 at 7:13am
	To Underground Dub: There were two different mixes of the IRS verion (in addition to the Stiff-label version). I'm just not 100% sure if the original IRS mix was ever released commercially. When "Our Lips Are Sealed" was issued as the first IRS single from 'Beauty & The Beat' a promo 12" was issued (SP 70956) to AOR & Dance Clubs with two tracks on the B-side ("Tonite" & "We Got The Beat"). "We Got The Beat" here has more bass, less reverb on the snare, no one-note keyboard after the first chorus, & is six-seconds longer than the subsequent single mix that came out later. My vinyl pressing of 'Beauty & The Beat' has the single mix, but it's not necessarily the first pressing of the vinyl (so I don't know if the newer mix was swapped at some point). Andy

Underground Dub Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 July 2006 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Underground Dub Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 March 2011 at 11:14am
	Thanks Andy, had no idea about a third mix/version. :)

budaniel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote budaniel Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 March 2011 at 11:37am
	ah. so the two versions I have could very well be different mixes. I'll have to listen more closely now with the details Andy outlined. I happened to notice on amazon that in one person's review for the version of Beauty and the Beat that I have, aside from mentioning the issues with Our Lips are Sealed, the reviewer states that We Got the Beat is shorter than the version he used to have on his vinyl LP...

MMathews Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MMathews Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 March 2011 at 2:09pm
	Hi i can add my memory to this as well, i never bought it at the time, but assumed the import IRS 12" single must have been what i heard on WLIR on Long Island at the time. I noticed minor differences in the overall sound, but what jumped out at me was at the break around 1:50 when she sings "everybody get on your feet, we know you can dance to the beat".... in the common version there are handclaps. In the one i heard on WLIR, there was jst the hard snare hit, NO handclaps. That was the version i never found a copy of. I asked at the time, and was told they played the 12" version. Hopefully someone can locate a IRS 12" and confirm that someday. As for the U.S. 45 and LP, i could never notice any mixing difference. -MM Edited by MMathews

budaniel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote budaniel Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 March 2011 at 2:26pm
	hm...i wonder if the versions on ALL the compilations in the database are all the same mix.

Jody Thornton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 23 May 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jody Thornton Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 March 2011 at 5:42pm
	But the US 45-rpm disc had an edit at :40 during the instrumental break, did it not?
	Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario)

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 March 2011 at 8:45pm
	This is an intriguing thread! I have the song on 11 different CDs, and all seem to be based on just a few different analog transfers. There's a bunch that use the same analog transfer as Warner Special Products' Night Beat (1988). (Note: This may be based on the Beauty And The Beat CD mastering, but I don't have that to compare.) These include: Razor & Tie's 2-CD Awesome '80s JCI's Only Dance 1980-1984 JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll #1 Radio Hits 1980-1984 Then there's a bunch that use the same transfer as I.R.S.'s Go-Go's Greatest (1990): the promo set The A List Cema/Big Ear Music's Only In The 80's Vol. 1 Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 25 Rolling Stone 1980-1981 Time-Life's Gold And Platinum Vol. 4 Time-Life's Modern Rock Vol. 5 Dance All sounds like the same mix to me. Slightly different EQ, perhaps, but the same mix, and the only mix I've ever heard on the air or on record. Oh, the same mix also appears on Priority's Eighties Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 2. Edited by crapfromthepast