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    Posted: 26 August 2011 at 11:35am
Anyone know how to recreate the 2:58 DJ edit for Green-Eyed Lady?
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Funny, I never heard this edit during the song's chart run...every station around here (including the one where I was a weekender) played the 3:33 version back in the autumn of 1970. Dunno if the short version was only selectively serviced, or what. First time I heard the edit I thought it was a station edit.

I know there were 2 different stock singles of this, the aforementioned 3:33, and one with a listed time of 5:58 that was essentially the album version faded early.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2011 at 6:34pm
Thanks to Steve, I was able to hear a recreation of the DJ edit. You'll need a section of the LP version to complete the DJ edit, as the needed instrumental section isn't in the 45 version.

Thanks, Steve!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bwolfe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2011 at 9:46am
I was wondering if it was close to what Dick Bartley has used in the past.
It essentially plays the 45 version then ends with the LP version close.
Maybe it was Bartley's own creation.
the way it was heard on the radio
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 August 2011 at 6:52am
Originally posted by bwolfe bwolfe wrote:

I was wondering if it was close to what Dick Bartley has used in the past.
It essentially plays the 45 version then ends with the LP version close.
Maybe it was Bartley's own creation.


Not sure what Bartley uses, but the short promo version had different edits in the intro and bridge than the stock. I don't remember it having a cold ending like the album did.
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Three DJ 45s were issued, I'm not sure of the order except that the 3:33 was the last one issued. There was the 5:58 version which is an early fade of the LP version. There is the 2:58 version. Then the 3:33 version. That may have been the order released, the longest first, the 2:58 edit second, and finally the 3:33 version.

The 3:33 version sounds like somebody took the 2:58 version, took some of the music out of the the middle but spliced organ/guitar solo back in. This would explain the level change which happens at the splice before the instrumental break, AND the early splice back after the instrumental break, it's a beat early. There is no reason for that last edit, it was obviously a mistake as they spliced back in to the ending of the 2:58 edit, they probably figured it was "close enough" or didn't notice or care.

The 3:33 version often sounded a little out of phase when played in mono, probably from the splicing back in process.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jimct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2014 at 12:21pm
Bill, are you absolutely certain that 1970 US Liberty 56183 stock and
promo 45s did exist with a length of (5:58)?

I have been able to confirm the existence of the other two US promo 45
lengths you specify, (2:58) and (3:33). But never a (5:58) US promo 45. Of
course, this doesn't mean one didn't exist. I just can't yet confirm it.

And every single US stock copy that I have ever owned or seen has always
had a listed time of (3:33). I've never found a single US (5:58) stock copy.
And I've been looking for one for years now.

Yesterday, I was able to buy a (5:58) stock 45 copy on eBay. However, it
was a Canadian copy. In fact, the listing said "Canada-only (5:58) 45
length." Now just because a merchant says something, that doesn't make
it true. But his statement does also match my own experience.

Bill, I consider you to be one of the very top authorities here on Pat's
board. Do you happen to own actual US stock/promo (5:58) copies for
"Green-Eyed Lady", or are you going from memory on it? Just curious.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bill Cahill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2014 at 2:05pm
I can't remember now if it was stock or the promo but I think I sent it to Pat Downey, it was on his "want list" at the time. Pat?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2014 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:


Bill, I consider you to be one of the very top
authorities here on Pat's
board. Do you happen to own actual US stock/promo (5:58)
copies for
"Green-Eyed Lady", or are you going from memory on it?
Just curious.


I'm not Bill, but I have a stock 5:58 copy that's a U.S.
Liberty release. I can send you a label scan if you'd
like.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jimct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2014 at 2:12pm
No, Steve, that's fine. I believe you. Now I guess the only remaining question
is does anyone own an actual US promo 45 that runs (5:58)?
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