face to face "10-9-8" 45 vrs cd versions

anyone know where i can find the 45 version of the song "10-9-8" by face to face from 1984.....the epic 45 04430 is the same as the cd "heard it on the radio" for the first 2:16 then there is 0:10 of the song edited out on the cd and restarts the same from the 2:26 of the cd and finishes the same at 3:53 on the cd but the 45 is only 3:43....any help would be welcomed...

Easy edit instructions, using the LP version on Hazy Shade Of '80s as the source:

Keep 0:00.0 to 2:16.6 of the LP version.
There's a 2-beat drum fill before the downbeat that would fall at 2:16.8 of the LP version. The edit falls halfway through the drum fill on the next-to-last snare at 2:16.6.
Remove the 16 beats from 2:16.6 to 2:24.6.
Keep from 2:24.6 to 3:55.5 (end).

Your mixdown will run 3:45 (3:47.5 with outro silence), with an edit at 2:16.6.

Edited by crapfromthepast

Hmmm, another case of an original parent album missing from the on-line database. While it never came out on CD here in the U.S. back in the mid '80s, the parent album of this top 40 hit from 1984 - simply titled Face to Face - did finally see a release on CD here in 2006, on Wounded Bird WOU 3885. In fact, it even included two bonus tracks: the extended dance mixes of the album's two singles, "10-9-8" and "Under the Gun". Unfortunately, the CD is now long out-of-print, and goes for big $$$ - unless you get lucky, expect to pay in the $40-$60 range for a used copy! Or, if you currently have $400 burning a hole in your wallet (and that's at 20% off the seller's original asking price of $500 - but hey, you get FREE shipping!), you can do a "Buy It Now" for this used copy on eBay: FACE TO FACE - "Face to Face" (U.S. CD) Oh, and there's currently one other used copy up for auction on eBay, starting at $90: FACE TO FACE - "Face to Face" (U.S. CD) However, I already have this CD myself, so if Pat wishes to add it immediately, I can report that the "LP version" of "10-9-8" (track 7) has an actual time of (3:53), while the "Dance Mix" (track 11) has an actual time of (5:42). Again, the latter did not appear on the original 1984 vinyl LP or cassette - but according to the db, this extended version HAS been featured on two V/A compilations over the years, where Pat has it labeled as the "(12" single version)"...

Indy500 wrote: I don't remember "10-9-8" much because KLOL in Houston played the B-side of the 12" promo instead, a great song called "Out of my Hands." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZVJRJoB9fI Tell me that's not one the best instrumental openings ever.

"Out of My Hands" was the lead-off track on the Face to Face album (all three formats). It has an actual time of (4:47) on the Wounded Bird CD; I see from photos on Discogs that the promo 12" single you're referring to (Epic AS 1823) had a printed time of "4:46" for "Out of My Hands", so it appears they simply used the LP version. While never released as a commercial single here, the song actually cracked Billboard's "Top Rock Tracks" (AOR) chart for two weeks in June of '84, peaking at #55; it would prove to be the group's only AOR hit. According to Wikipedia, Houston's KLOL was an AOR-formatted station in 1984, so they were clearly one of the stations that helped land the song on that chart. Never heard it on the radio myself, but I agree the instrumental intro is pretty cool...

I remember first being exposed to "10-9-8" on MTV, as the video got moderate airplay there. I know I then heard it on the radio for the three weeks that it cracked the top 40 in Billboard later that July/August, as I was an "American Top 40" addict at the time, lol. That was also about when I ran out and bought the Face to Face album on cassette, which I still have to this day. :-) Outside of "AT40", I seem to recall the song got little, if any, airplay on CHR radio in SoCal (where I lived at the time), and always felt the group should've done better. (Was SHOCKED when "10-9-8" stalled at #38 - thought it sounded like a sure top 20 hit, at least!) I finally got around to picking up the Wounded Bird CD a couple years ago, and had almost forgotten how much I liked the album as a whole...