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    Posted: 21 April 2012 at 1:16pm
the db lists only one entry for the bill haley song "(we're
gonna) rock around the clock", but, the song was originally
released in 1955 as decca 29124 and then re-released in
1974 as mca 60025, do to it's inclusion in the then popular
tv series "happy days".....i'm reviewing bill haley this
afternoon and i have both vinyl 45's....what's interesting
is the original issue as decca 29124 doesn't have the count
of "1, 2" at the beginning while the re-issue mca 60025
does.....don't know how this info s/b incorporated into the
db, but for top 40 purist like us, it should be noted that
the two issuance's of the song on 45 are NOT the same.....
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I don't want to speak for Pat, but I'm guessing he may not have listed the 1974 re-release of Bill Haley and His Comets' "(We're gonna) Rock Around the Clock" due to its low peak position on other major music chart publications besides Billboard. Still, in my humble opinion I think it warrants mentioning the "with countdown/without countdown" distinction between the two releases.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 April 2012 at 8:43am
paul haney....i don't know whether it's worth noting, but
the "billboard hot 100 annual" book i have from 1955-2005
says that the 1955 and 1974 releases of "(we're gonna) rock
around the clock" are the same....technically, that's not
correct, but i don't know whether that is worth an
amendment in future additions or not....
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Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

what's interesting is the original issue as Decca 29124 doesn't have the count of "1, 2" at the beginning while the re-issue MCA 60025 does


MCA 60025 may have its own set of variations, not only because it remained in print over several decades and three label designs, but because it had already been a part of the label's 60000-series oldies lineup prior to being promoted as a current in 1974. The reissue which charted in 1974 was on the black-and-silver rainbow label, and my copy does not have the spoken "1-2" count-off. It begins with the drumbeats/"One, two, three o'clock, four o'clock rock..." intro just as the original Decca 29124 did. I don't have the 1974 DJ 45, but remember playing it at the time, and it likewise did not have the spoken "1-2" count-off. I'd never even heard that count-off prior to the track's appearance on MCA's Vintage Music, Vol. 3 CD.

Ed, Decca 29124 was first issued in May of 1954 and it charted in Billboard for one week at number 23 at the end of that month. It would take one calendar year and a jumpstart from its exposure in The Blackboard Jungle before it became a smash hit.

The deadwax on my 60025 reissue is "86163 W-1", with the numeral "2" opposite, which indicated it was pressed by MCA's Pinckneyville, Illinois plant. That "2" also indicated that it was an older stamper from MCA's pre-1973 Decca label, as the "2" was replaced by the "<>-P-<>" symbol in '73 for Pinckneyville pressings.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 April 2012 at 4:20pm
yah shure....i think you may be on to something here....as
they say in the nfl...."upon further review".....my
commercial 45 issued as mca 60025 is of the blue rainbow
varity....in addition, which i didn't notice at first....it
does say copyright 1980 around the bottom half of the label
near the vinyl......so this clearly wasn't the version
issued in 1974....i will have to track down the black
rainbow version now.....so the 1954 and 1974 release
actually ARE the same....and this 1980 re-reissue is
not.....very puzzling....

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I own the MCA 60025 single in original black rainbow label and blue rainbow last label. The Black Rainbow I have has "Rock Around The Clock" from a new MCA Stamper, "Thirteen Women" is an old Decca stamper. And has bass to die for. And "Rock Around The Clock" has no 1-2 countoff. My Blue Rainbow issue has MCA stampers on both sides, and 1-2 on "Rock Around The Clock"
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The first appearance of the countoff that I'm aware of was on the 1985 Steve Hoffman mastered CD From The Original Master Tapes. Ed's copy of MCA 60025 was likely pressed after this date. My copy of 60025, which I purchased in the early 1980s, also has the light blue 'rainbow' label but does not have the countoff. It's surprising that MCA would have bothered to remaster the re-issue 45 some time after 1985 but apparently they did.
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Not relating to the 45 at all, but when the song was used in an episode of Quantum Leap (the Good Morning, Peoria episode when Sam leaps into a DJ in Peoria, Illinois in 1959), the song gets put on the air and one hears a fade-in of the countoff before the song starts, which I found a bit funny.

As for the MCA issues of the 45, I have a blue rainbow label copy which does not have the countoff.
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Originally posted by KentT KentT wrote:

"Rock Around The Clock" has no 1-2 countoff.


The correct 45 version does not contain the 1-2 countoff. Numerous versions on CD are either missing the opening drum beat, a rerecording or they have the 1,2 countoff. If you notice any of that then you have a non-hit version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V7mVlilRSM

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The compilation, "American Heartbeat 1955" doesn't have the count-off or drumbeat, but starts cold with Bill Haley singing, "One, two, three o'clock,
four o'clock rock". That's the only time I've ever heard the song open cold with vocals.
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