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"I Can’t Turn You Loose" - Chambers Bros

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    Posted: 19 May 2012 at 9:57am
Hi folks. The usual question. Can the 45 be extracted
from the LP (realizing of course that the 45 was mono and
the LP was stereo)?
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Can't answer your question, but I have one of my own.
Was there a radio edit of this song? My promo copy is simply a white-label version of the stock and is (listed) 4:50. WRKO played an edit where the 2nd verse was removed, and I think a couple other edits. Given that Columbia often issued multiple promos, I was just wondering. Then again it could have been a house edit.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2012 at 7:12pm
I think I might have found the answer to my initial
query. Somebody loaded the 45 to YouTube.

One very small edit somewhere in the beginning (sounds
like any one of the four-bars between the (:06) and the
(:16) mark on the LP version can be edited [so long as
you start and end the edit on the downbeat]). What I
don't know is whether it's a dedicated mono mix on the 45
or a fold-down. But at least it appears you can create a
stereo single version just by chopping off one of the
four-bars.

As to whether any promo singles were shorter I don't
know, Steve.
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Thanks for this, Doug. I too was interested in possibly creating a stereo 45 of The Chambers Brothers' "I Can't Turn You Loose" from the LP version at some point, but didn't know if there was audio unique to the 45 that would make such an edit impossible. You evidently are saying it can be done.
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I'm still not sure about that, Paul. It didn't sound like
there was any, but that's based on jumping forward a few
times in the YouTube video to see if times lined up. I
don't have A/B software to really do a valid comparison.
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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

Hi folks. The usual question. Can the 45 be extracted
from the LP (realizing of course that the 45 was mono and
the LP was stereo)?
Doug, the 45 version uses a completely
different vocal take, so the answer is no.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2012 at 7:57am
Thanks, Jim. So everybody, forget what I said about being
able to create a stereo 45 version.
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I found a stereo version on YouTube (not dubbed from vinyl), although it abruptly stops at 3:29. I compared the vocal take to the 45, and they sound the same to me. So, there must be at least one stereo recording of the song on CD that matches the 45 vocal take.

I folded down this stereo version, and I can conclude that the 45 is a dedicated mono mix. The stereo fold down is pretty close, though.
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Aaron, I don't know. Maybe you could give it a second listen (and
goodness knows, I don't say that to you too often, my friend!) Perhaps there
were two different 1969 stock 45s issued. I listened quite carefully to both
the 45 I own & the CD version a number of times a year or two ago, and I
clearly recall that his voice is much more raw and emotive at times on the 45
version, especially during the 2nd half of the song (after your You Tube
sample stopped, perhaps). His voice almost "cracks" a couple of times, it is
so raw, raspy and impassioned on that single. It jumped right out at me, just
like the musical differences I'd heard on the 45 versions of songs like "All
Right Now", "Going Up The Country" and "Evil Woman". Aaron, it is great
news that you believe the 45v is on CD somewhere; I'd buy it immediately.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2012 at 11:01am
Having just listened to the sample on YouTube, even if the
vocal take matches, there still needs to be a small edit
somewhere between the (:06) and (:16) mark for it to match
the 45. So the 45 version wouldn't technically be
available on whatever CD that was ripped from.
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