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    Posted: 02 August 2012 at 1:49pm
Pat,

Re: My girl (Gone, Gone, Gone) - just noticed this in the
database.

the version on these cd's:
"Lost 45's of the 70's and 80's"
"Then - Totally Oldies 80's 5"

is not the U.S. 45 version. The version on these cd's
and my Canadian Best-of are the original mix. It was re-
mixed for the U.S. Millenium LP, and the U.S. 45 was
edited from that remix.

The original Canadian mix sounds very "mono" with most
elements center, and mono reverb.
The U.S. remix sounds fuller, wider mix with stereo
reverb, altho this is easier to hear under headphones.

The easiest way to spot the original Canadian mix is in
the intro. Both start with the chant "gone gone gone she
been gone so long, she been gone gone gone so long".
However;
The segment as the drums start at :14, from :14 to :22
they chant "gone gone gone she been gone so long well i
wonder if i'm ever gonna see my girl" twice.
THAT segment was edited out of the American mix. The lead
vocal should start at :14 on both the U.S. LP and 45
versions.
I don't have either cd listed with "LP Version" but i'd
assume they are the U.S. LP version - but as ar as i know
the Millenium 45 version is not on cd yet.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pat Downey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2012 at 9:18am
Hmmm I wonder if we have a case of there being 2 different US pressings of this 45 as I have 4 dj copies of this single, all pressed in the US, Millennium 11813, matrix number YB-11813-A and they all match what Mark describes as the Canadian version and is the version on the cd "Lost 45s of the '70s & '80s". I do not have a commercial copy but it seems strange that the dj copy would not equal the commercial copy so can anyone else that has a commercial copy please check which version you own and pass along a matrix number as well?
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My Millennium 11813 stock 45 is a Sterling-mastered styrene RCA Indianapolis pressing, and has the same "YB-11813-A" deadwax matrix number as your DJ 45s, Pat. It also matches your description.

The drums start at 12.7 seconds, the "... well, I wonder if I'm ever gonna see my girl" line is repeated twice, and the lead vocal begins at the :22 mark.

The mix sounds identical to the "near mono" mix Mark cited on the Canadian mix, with only the finger snaps providing any significant stereo separation during the intro. I can't detect any mix differences between my stock U.S. 45 and the track on the 1988 Canadian Chilliwack Greatest Hits CD on Solid Gold (VCK 80129.)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MMathews Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2012 at 1:53pm
Well, this is a head scratcher for me.

The "Greatest Hits" cd was the first time i'd ever heard
that mix. and of course now that i bring this up, i long
ago got rid of my 45.
I have a digital dub of my u.s. LP, but that doesn't
really help here.
I see i messed up where the lead vocal starts for the
u.s. LP version, it's actually :18.

Well, now i certainly know that what i call the Canadian
mix was indeed on the Millenium 45 - but hopefully i can
locate a 45 that matches what i recall on my pressing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RichM921 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2012 at 6:59pm
Although I can't help you on the 45 question, I can confirm that the
edit you mention with the vocals coming in at :14 does exist. I have it
on a various artists LP called "Rock Power Music" released in 1983 on
RCA. Since I never owned the 45, I just assumed this was the single
version. Now I too am curious from where this edit originates.

Edited by RichM921
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jody Thornton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 August 2012 at 5:51am
It originates from a Canadian promo 45. On the true edit though, the second chant is repeated twice (yes, for a total of four chants). That means the vocal comes in at .... hang on.

... ok back from the turntable, the vocal comes in at :18 seconds. Plus the picthc is slowed down on this mix by a semi-tome I would imagine.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MMathews Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 August 2012 at 10:29pm
Jody, the version you describe sounds like the LP mix.
that's basically how i recall my 45 but a little shorter,
could have been an edit or an early fade.
I'm also intrigued by the version Rich has on the RCA
sampler.

Pat, my apologies for raising a false alarm - from what
i'm gathering the version listed as "45 version" is what
was on most 45's out there.

thanks for the extra info guys...

MM

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote radiofan16 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2016 at 12:05am
Bumping this thread back up, it appears that the version MMathews is
describing is the LP version, which runs 4:16 seconds. All 45 versions run
3:56 seconds and include the "wonder if I'm ever gonna see my girl" chant that
starts after the drums kick in. This is absent in the LP version.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MMathews Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2016 at 3:55pm
Yes radiofan, I thought my old 45 was just an early fade
of the LP version. But no one here has ever encountered a
pressing like that so once again my aging brain wires must
have crossed.
Funny thing was when I bought their Best-of on CD years
later, I heard the 45 intro with the extra chants and felt
I had never heard that before.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2016 at 6:12pm
It was never a hit in the U.S. (maybe in Canada) but a
good song from Chilliwack in 1977 was "Fly At Night"
on the Mushroom label.

Only the LP version, running almost 5 minutes, has
shown up on CD. There was a stereo short version and a
mono short version that had a listed time of 3:20.
Somewhere, in a move or two, I misplaced my copy of
the short version.

It's one of those songs that either wasn't pushed by
the label or the general public hated the song. I
thought it was a good song. In fact, we played it at
WWCB in Corry, PA briefly in 1977.
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