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| Ringmaster_D   Music Fan   Joined: 08 July 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Decline of the fade-out in popular music Posted: 15 March 2019 at 6:04am | 
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   Hi all.  Thought you would enjoy this article:
 https://slate.com/culture/2014/09/the-fade-out-in-pop- music-why-dont-modern-pop-songs-end-by-slowly-reducing- in-volume.html Having spent so much time re-creating single fades--and not nearly as much time listening to hits of the 2000's- -I guess I didn't realize this trend. Personally, I enjoy a nice fade when it occurs at just the right point in the song, implying that the music could go on and on... | |
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| The Hits Man   Music Fan   Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 March 2019 at 6:09am | 
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   I also prefer fades, especially long ones. 
 Of course there's many more these days, but the first time I noticed a fade in years was with Bruno Mars "Treasure". Of course, he, like some other artists, are into retro. Another I can think of is "Get Lucky" by Daft Punk. I have noticed the trend of cold endings in the last couple of decades, and I somehow link it to an overall decrease in patience and attention span. To me, it indicates a harsher society. I equate fades as being gentle. Edited by The Hits Man | |
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| eriejwg   Music Fan     Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 109 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 March 2019 at 1:48pm | 
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   I got a 404 not found in trying to read the article.
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| crapfromthepast   Music Fan     Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 161 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 March 2019 at 2:31pm | 
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| torcan   Music Fan   Joined: 23 June 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 12 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 March 2019 at 7:49am | 
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   I may be in the minority here, but I've always preferred 
 songs with cold endings. It bugged me a little that so many songs faded out - I wanted to hear how it ends! | |
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| Hykker   Music Fan   Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 33 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 March 2019 at 4:28pm | 
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 Actually, in a lot of cases it didn't...the musicians knew the song would have a fade-out, so once the song was essentially over, they just stopped playing, and let the producers deal with it. I heard an interview with Stevie Nicks many years ago, and she commented about how when Fleetwood Mac was getting ready to on tour (I think this was after "Rumours"), and they had to come up with endings for the songs to use in the shows. | |
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| MMathews   Music Fan   Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 23 July 2021 at 11:07pm | 
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   I remembered seeing this post a few years ago.  I just 
 came by to comment that in the last 3 years I have not heard ONE new song with a fade-out. Earlier this year I put together a couple of CDR's for a friend. It was about 40-50 requests for pop and Hot A/C hits from 2019 - 2021. Two things I noticed. One was that almost EVERY source was brick-walled to DEATH...often to the point of distortion. The 2nd thing was that not one song faded. Not only do they all end cold, but in most the ending is very abrupt. Like all music stops and ends on one word - all within 1 second. I guess this goes under the category of "modern pop production playbook" which, at least as far as I can tell, everyone is working from some modern instruction "check-list" that now ALL producers work from. Use plenty of pre-set loops common in all modern pop, use plenty of auto-tune, and then take the finished result and blast the levels so high as to remove all traces of a final mix, because at the end, all elements IN the mix are all at blasting levels. So, working from the modern electro-type pop play-book, no song will ever have a fade-out again. Fascinating. MM | |
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| promojunkie   Music Fan   Joined: 08 August 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 24 July 2021 at 8:22am | 
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   Interesting topic.  I've also noticed that pop songs are 
 getting shorter and shorter. I would venture to say the average pop song 30 years ago averaged around 4 minutes on the radio. Now they seem to average 3 minutes or under. And what is with the brick-walling in mastering these days? Even remastered hits from years past are brick-walled. The distortion is crazy. | |
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| AdvprosD   Music Fan   Joined: 12 June 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 24 July 2021 at 9:03am | 
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   Back in the day, I used to enjoy songs that would end cold. I never really minded a good fade out, but it always seemed like they would always be getting to a really good
 part in the song and then it started to fade. Cold endings didn't seem to be robbing me of a splendid guitar solo. Since I rarely listen to any new music these days, I might see if I can find something interesting. I always used to comment about ZZ Top as a band that could make some great rock, but couldn't figure out how to end a song to save their lives. | |
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| eriejwg   Music Fan     Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 109 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 25 July 2021 at 12:30pm | 
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   Many current and popular songs, as was mentioned, are much 
 shorter in length. The trend seemed to start around the time of the remix of "Old Town Road" which runs 2:35 or so. I've seen quite a few less than 2 minutes long. | |
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