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    Posted: 07 September 2022 at 3:54pm
Since some of you are a little more connected in the radio biz than I am, maybe you can answer this. Let
me give you the long drawn-out story. Grab yourself a beverage. :)

Over the Labor Day weekend, SiriusXM's 70s on 7 channel did a listener-voted countdown of the Top 1000 of
the 70s. And it was for the most part really well done. Lot of variety--including a number of songs
that haven't aired on the channel in quite a while (even going back to the days when it was under
different management and the music selection was a lot more liberal). An anonymous Reddit user (no, it
wasn't me) was adventurous enough to listen to the entire top 1000. He/she was even more adventurous
enough to type out the top 1000 longhand (for the benefit of the those of me who couldn't listen for all
58-some hours of the countdown). So I thought to myself, "Self, I have all of these songs in my library,
so why not create a playlist just to be able to refer to it?" (I'm traveling next month, and it'd be
great to load it onto my iPhone to listen on the plane.)

I start work, I'm moving along at a really good clip (taking an all-70s playlist I have and working from
there), and I find that Stevie Wonder's "Living For The City" (great record) winds up at 991...and
at 596. Oy. While I love the record and could listen to it more than twice, somehow I don't think that
what the programmer had in mind when compiling the votes. And doing a search of XMplaylist.com does
indeed indicate the song was played twice within the 58-some hours of the countdown. EDIT: As does the On
Demand section on the app.

So the question is this--does anyone know who handles the programming for SiriusXM 70s on 7 so I can at
least try to get an answer as to which position "Living For The City" should've been and what song should
have been played in the other position?

Thx!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2022 at 9:13pm
Ron Parker, who did afternoons at
WLS-FM a few years ago and is on 70s
on 7 now, is pretty active on
Facebook. You may want to reach out
to him directly and he might be able
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Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

Ron Parker, who did afternoons at WLS-FM a few years ago and is on 70s on 7 now, is
pretty active on Facebook. You may want to reach out to him directly and he might be able to find out
for you.


That's an idea. And I am friends with him on the Book of Face.

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Might one of them actually be the superb 1975 version by
Ray Charles, which won the 1975 R&B Male Vocal Grammy (#91
Hot 100, #22 R&B)?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2022 at 6:40am
Originally posted by Paul C Paul C wrote:

Might one of them actually be the superb 1975 version by

Ray Charles, which won the 1975 R&B Male Vocal Grammy (#91

Hot 100, #22 R&B)?




I would seriously doubt it. That’s a deep cut even for them. :)
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Did "You Light Up My Life" rank at all on this countdown?
I always marvel how that song is never included in any '70s
retrospectives that are not determined objectively (e.g.
charts, record sales). I was stunned when I watched "The
Year In Music" for 1977 on AXS-TV and they did not even
mention the song - they even listed the year's biggest
Grammy winners and only noted "Evergreen" as Song Of The
Year. The fact that this was the only time two songs tied
for the award would have been worth noting "Light" for that
reason alone.
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Originally posted by Scanner Scanner wrote:

Did "You Light Up My Life" rank at all on this countdown?


Yes. 450.

It was listener-voted, so make from that what you will.

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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

It was listener-voted, so make from that what you will.


Uhhhh, yeah.
I take these "listener voted" surveys with a tablespoon of salt. Only a VERY small percentage of listeners EVER contact a "station" for any
reason, let alone vote for these things, and you'd never even know about it if you weren't a S-XM subscriber so it's not exactly a
representative group who's voting here.
Back in the 70s I worked for a station that did a couple of these type of holiday weekend countdowns, and I can assure you that much fudging of
the results took place!
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Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

It was listener-voted, so
make from that what you will.


Back in the 70s I worked for a station that did a couple
of these type of holiday weekend countdowns, and I can
assure you that much fudging of
the results took place!


There wasn't fudging just on these all-time lists, but
many radio station's weekly charts as well.

Here in Toronto, both CHUM and CFTR published weekly
charts in the newspapers. Both referred to them as
"Toronto's Top Singles". During the '80s, CHUM's format
changed to more of a rock/alternative format and many hit
songs (like "Physical") never appeared on their lists.
When "Thriller" hit big in '83, they moved back to more
of a pop direction again.

When I was in college. one of my instructors was a former
CHUM employee. I asked him about the charts they
compiled and he said "...basically you bull----, you TELL
people that's what the No. 1 song is".
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Hi, another former radio jock here, can confirm: radio station charts are a combination of listener input, staff guesswork, and Music Director opinions.

Filled in one night in 1990 for the night jock on my local top 40. They did a "Top 8 At Eight" every weeknight. Asked where the log of requests were so I could start totaling them up.

Was LAUGHED at, told we couldn't trust requests (partially true), and shown how listener input influenced but didn't determine the nightly countdown:

"That song wouldn't have fallen from here to there, so we'll only move it a space or two. This song doesn't fit our format even though it got enough requests to land on the charts. We're wanting to see how many people will start reporting they like this song so we're putting it on the countdown every night..."

I left the studio that night even more disillusioned than I had been before (which I didn't think was possible).

(FWIW, when I survey people for my internet station every week, I'm ACTUALLY counting each vote and ACTUALLY playing songs more or less often based on the votes of my listener advisory board... 12 listeners who tell me each week what they think. That's why I think I can win, because I know broadcast stations DON'T do that. They think they're "smarter" than the listener. Sad, really.)
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