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EdisonLite 
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 Topic: Janet Jackson’s "Again"Posted: 15 May 2005 at 2:32pm |
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On the promo CD single of "Again", it lists version 1 as "single version". I compared this to the version on the album and couldn't hear any differences really. Certainly not mix differences. I noticed that the last string note fades out on the single whereas on the album it holds at a constant volume and bleeds into the next song (i.e. the string note also belongs as part of the next segment.) I wonder -- is this enough to warrant a "single version" notation, when the last note simply had to fade a bit so as not to go into the next song. I was also trying to figure out if an additional string note is included on the last note during the album version (as the note continues) and may be completely absent from the single. I couldn't tell because the single is already very soft by that point. What are people's opinion of the last note? Is there an extra string note as the chord continues? Either way, is there enough of a difference to merit a "single version" in the book (which is not listed that way, at least in the 9th ed.)?
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Posted: 15 May 2005 at 4:27pm |
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This is another good question and I can say that if I were 100% consistent I should have called this an LP version when it tracks into the next selection. Let's hear what other chat board members think.
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Posted: 15 May 2005 at 5:18pm |
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I have to agree with you, Pat, especially for consistency sake. On the LP, the song does not fade. It, therefore, differs from the single (which fades) and should be noted as "LP version" (as the length is the same but the mix/sound differs during the last couple seconds.) You might want to explain the slight difference in the header under the song title.
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Posted: 16 May 2005 at 12:11pm |
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As far as I'm concerned, Janet Jackson's "Again" as it appears on the Janet CD really does nothing more than track into the next selection. It is not a terribly uncommon occurence for songs to segue into each other on a CD and therefore I believe things might get messy if we're going to try classifying such songs as distinct LP versions.
If Pat were to add a "tracks into the next selection" comment for "Again" on the Janet disc, I think this would suffice in implying that the song otherwise has its own distinct ending which in this case is a complete fadeout. On the other hand, if "Again" were to be listed with an "LP version" comment, it may mislead readers into thinking the single version is some sort of a different mix, edit, or length and they may go through the trouble of seeking a commercial single copy believing they're going to find something significantly different than what's on the album. Again, to sum up, I think a "tracks into next selection" comment would work best here. I also like EdisonLite's suggestion to maybe briefly explain in the header under the song title that "commercial single copies fade out at 3:46". |
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Posted: 16 May 2005 at 4:53pm |
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Having read Todd's response, I must say agree 100% with him. Good points. If you can essentially fade an album version to be the single -- whether it's a 15 second fade or a 1/2 second fade over a last note, then calling something an "LP version" wouldn't make sense. The "tracks into next selection" comment should be enough.
Also, I noticed in Pat's book that Bryan Adams' "Everything I Do" and "Do I Have to Say the Words" are both listed as "LP version" but I think they both should be listed as "LP length." Much like Janet Jackson's "Again", they fade out over a held string note on the single, taking the last second or so, and fading it to zero, whereas the song continues on in the album version. So these should be changed to "LP length". Again, these are more like one-second fades as opposed to your typical 10 or 15 second fades, but the singles are still fades and can be accomplished by fading the album version. |
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Posted: 02 May 2021 at 2:52pm |
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So can anyone answer what the difference is between the LP, the Single version on the promo and the Piano/Vocal version on the same promo are? I think I am going crazy cause I don't hear anything drastically different!
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Posted: 02 May 2021 at 3:31pm |
As mentioned earlier, the Single Version is the same as the LP version from the janet. album, but the tail end of the final note is faded before it goes into the next song or interlude. The Piano/Vocal version is a different mix, missing the strings track, so all of those sustained notes and flourishes are missing making for an emptier sounding arrangement. |
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