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    Posted: 04 September 2008 at 4:22pm
According to abagon, the actual and printed commercial 45 run time of Mr. Mister's "Kyrie" is 4:10. The only reason I post this is because the vast majority of database CD appearances showing a "45 version" comment run :03 longer.
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How can this be?

"Kyrie" commercial single version ends abruptly cold with no reverb trail.

Is there a pitch difference??

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Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

How can this be?

"Kyrie" commercial single version ends abruptly cold with no reverb trail.

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I always wondered which version was on the commercial single. My 12" promo copy has the version with the cold ending on one side, and a slightly longer version with a fade ending on the other.
I seem to recall hearing both versions on the air.
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Were all 45's pressed on purple vinyl?
I have a picture sleeve along with the commercial copy pressed on purple vinyl.

Hyyker is correct.
That's how the 12 inch was pressed for airplay.
1985 was my first year in radio with "Broken Wings" and then "Kyrie".
the way it was heard on the radio
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I have 2 US commercial 45s of the "Kyrie". One is the purple vinyl, the other is the black vinyl. Both 45s are the same actual running time (4:10).
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I couldn't pass up this reissue copy pressed on the wrong label stock.

Edited by Yah Shure
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That's a howl!

A co-worker remembers buying what he thought was "Elenore" by the Turtles only to have "You Showed Me" instead.
The wrong label was applied to "You Showed Me."

I'm sure that could be a long lengthy thread concerning pressing plant mistakes.
the way it was heard on the radio
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Love the Grunt label!

The closest I've come to owning one of those is a Level 42 single ("Running In The Family", I think) that was mistakenly pressed on Mercury instead of Polydor. Saw it with my own eyes, and should have bought when I had the chance.
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i love the grunt records pressing! dj promo of "kyrie" (purple vinyl) has edited 45 version which trims the ethereal keyboard and vocals and starts on synth riff... after listening to the flip side (45 version; cold ending, 4:10) doesn't sound like the edited version can be created from 45 version because of ethereal keyboard overlap... time of edit and actual time of 45: 3:38
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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

The closest I've come to owning one of those is a Level 42 single ("Running In The Family", I think) that was mistakenly pressed on Mercury instead of Polydor. Saw it with my own eyes, and should have bought when I had the chance.

I actually have one of those. IIRC, I found it in a used bin at Main Street Records in Northampton, Mass., about ten years ago. I don't think it dawned on me that it was on the wrong label until I got it home and went to file it with my other 45s by Level 42. I just pulled my copy out -- the text on the label mentions Polydor in two places (in the copyright notice and in the album credit), and it has a picture sleeve which correctly has the Polydor logo on it. My copy was pressed by RCA, and has a severe case of the label oxidation (or whatever it is) that often seems to plague RCA labels from this era.

I'm guessing that RCA also pressed the "Kyrie" 45 on Grunt. IINM, the only U.S. plant that RCA still pressed vinyl at in this era was their Indianapolis facility, and it ceased doing so right around this time. Maybe quality control was lax towards the end, or they were even doing this deliberately, to get rid of excess inventory of label blanks.    
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