TLC Versions

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   Pat said he wanted some help on figuring out some of the versions of TLC's top 40 hits, so I'll start a new thread...

"Creep" on the LaFace Platinum Collection runs short.  I have never seen another source for this short version; however, to my ears, it sounds like an early fade of the LP/45 version.  My CD maxi single, and I believe the promo single, has the full length LP version.

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: TLC Versions Posted: 16 October 2005 at 2:07am
	Pat said he wanted some help on figuring out some of the versions of TLC's top 40 hits, so I'll start a new thread... "Creep" on the LaFace Platinum Collection runs short. I have never seen another source for this short version; however, to my ears, it sounds like an early fade of the LP/45 version. My CD maxi single, and I believe the promo single, has the full length LP version.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 2:17am
	"Red Light Special" has a "radio edit," which appeared on the promo single, the UK import single, and I believe the US CD maxi, but I can't say for sure. My research indicates that the vinyl 45 and cassette single both contain the full LP version. The only difference between the LP and Radio Edit is that the intro of the Radio Edit is cut in half. (It might also fade a couple seconds early.) The listing on Now & Forever is most likely the Radio Edit.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 2:31am
	The US maxi single of "Diggin' On You" uses the L.A. Live Remix as the lead track. The video also uses a remix, which I'm pretty sure is the L.A. Live Remix. Does anyone know if the two-track singles have the remix or LP version?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 2:42am
	"No Scrubs" - the version most commonly heard on the air was the Clean Version, which removed the lyrics "broke ass." The clean version of Fanmail also edited out those lyrics; however, if my memory serves me right, they were edited differently. On the promo single I used to play on the air, the words right before "broke ass" repeated (echoed), so it went like "...and just sits on his, on his, so..." On the clean album version, the word "ass" is simply muted. I don't ever remember seeing a commercial CD or cassette released in the US, but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist. I know for certain that a 12" single was released, which I do own. The version listed in the database as "remix" on LaFace Platinum Collection is from the 12" single, which adds extra vocals/rap by Left Eye.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 2:52am
	The promo single of "Unpretty" that I used to play on the air is labeled as Album Version; however I noticed that the run time on Fanmail is listed as (4:37). Although I don't have my copy of the full-length CD readily available, it's possible that the end of the song had a skit, which then segued into the next song. The promo single times out at (4:08), which is 10 seconds shorter than the time Pat lists for Now & Forever. Perhaps Pat or someone else who owns this CD could say what the time discrepancy is.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 3:09am
	Does anyone know where the strange edit of "Waterfalls" comes from on LaFace Platinum Collection? The only difference I hear between the "Single Edit" (45 version) and the one on this disc is that 11 seconds is edited out of the intro. Also, on listening carefully to this version, it sounds like they pulled this from a source where the ending of another song very briefly overlaps the first couple drum beats at the beginning; however it is NOT the song from the preceding track on the CD. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'll agree with Pat that the version on Platinum is neither.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 9:55am
	Aaron: I asked Ed about the commercial single version for "Unpretty" last night and he indeed confirms it's the album version with a run time of 4:38. The 3:59 version appearing on the Now & Forever - The Hits CD is the same as the 4:08 "radio version" but faded early. I have the radio version of "Unpretty" on one of my Promo Only DJ subscription CDs, but have had trouble finding this version on an actual promo CD single release. Aaron, could you tell me what is the catalog number on your promo copy and are there any other tracks on the disc besides the 4:08 radio version? Thanks! Edited by Todd Ireland

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 11:44am
	My actual copy of the single "Unpretty" is in Michigan, and for some reason, I don't have it listed in my database. I have a lot of my singles compiled on CD-Rs to save space, so that's the copy I was referencing. I just looked up a track listing online for LaFace 4391, which lists LP version, Instrumental, and Callout Hook. I'm thinking this is a case where the promo single is labeled incorrectly, and the "LP version" is really the "Radio Version." I distinctly remember playing the track on the air from the promo disc, and I know it didn't run the full (4:37). Does anyone have the promo CD who can verify that it's just a case of mislabeling?

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 12:38pm
	No, I have the US CD single of "No Scrubs," Aaron. I'm at work, so I'll check what versions are on it when I get home late tonight. It's in a card sleeve... I'm pretty sure it's a two-track.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2005 at 3:30pm
	I also looked up information on the "Red Light Special" promo CD on Arista LFPCD-4097 and have re-printed it here: 1) Radio Edit - 4:40 2) Alternate Radio Edit - 4:31 3) Album Version - 5:02 4) Album Instrumental - 5:02 Can you confirm if the run times are accurate? (I'm not terribly concerned with the instrumental version run time.) And am I correct in assuming that the more familiar radio edit is the one on Track 1 showing the 4:40 time?