Temptations-"The Plastic Man"

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   Pat, my commercial 45, which is stereo, has a listed time of (4:45), but an actual time of (3:35). This seems to approximately reflect the info you currently state in this song's notes for the short side of the DJ 45, but this timing exists on my stock 45. My deadwax is "62151-4A S 02A", preceded by a crossed-out "G7129F". 

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Temptations-"The Plastic Man" Posted: 28 May 2007 at 2:50am
	Pat, my commercial 45, which is stereo, has a listed time of (4:45), but an actual time of (3:35). This seems to approximately reflect the info you currently state in this song's notes for the short side of the DJ 45, but this timing exists on my stock 45. My deadwax is "62151-4A S 02A", preceded by a crossed-out "G7129F".

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 2007 at 9:32pm
	My commercial 45 that states and runs (4:45) has the matrix number 62151 02B-X 5-2-73. I have two dj copies of this 45, one has the (4:45) version on both sides and the other has the short version on both sides with matrix number 62151-4AS 17B G-7129-AS-1C RE-1 (3:38).

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 June 2009 at 2:09pm
	Pat: I thought I'd revisit this topic since there are currently two database CD appearances of the Temptations' "Plastic Man" stating: "this is the DJ 45 edit" as the basis of its comment. Assuming Jim's short 45 version running 3:35 is identical to the short DJ 45 edit, do you agree it might create less confusion for readers if the base comment next to the two database CDs in question were to instead read: "this is the short 45 version"?

Robert Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 March 2006 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Robert Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 October 2009 at 4:45pm
	Hi Jim & Todd & Pat - Not to want to complicate this thread further, but my short promo (stereo on one side mono on other) has a stated and actual time of 3:45, not 3:38. #'s: 62151-S-RE1 and G7129f-62151-s-17a; G7129-AS-1B RE1 (that's the stereo side). My long promo version (also mono/stereo)has a stated time of 4:45 and actual time of 4:44. I did not time the mono sides. #'s are: 62151-S G7129f-62151-17B; G7129-AS-1A. My commercial copy is the long version and as far as I can tell, it's the same as the long promo version. Is it possible we have a third version? Or maybe the 3:35 version is a DJ-edit and the other two are commercial 45 versions. I'll leave that to you guys and I'll wait to see what you think.

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2009 at 2:06pm
	I will complicate the matter further for you Robert as my short mono dj copy of Plastic Man with matrix number G7129F-62151-4A M17B G7129F-AM-1C RE1 runs (3:33) not (3:38) as stated on the record label. I cannot give you the stereo running time as there is a big scratch on my copy that makes my copy skip. As an update to this post, I just obtained another dj edit with stated running times of (3:45) on both the mono and stereo sides. The mono side runs (3:45) while the stereo side runs (3:43). Matrix number on this 45 in its entirety is G7129F-62151-M-17A G7129-AM-1B RE-1 on the mono side and G7129F-62151-S-17A G7129-AS-1B RE-1 on the stereo side. Edited by Pat Downey

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 March 2013 at 9:12am
	my commercial 45 issued as gordy 7129 states the run time on the label as 4:45 and does indeed run that length....the run out groove info is 'G-7129-A G7129F-62151-08A'
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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2013 at 8:52am
	my commercial 45 has silver lettering and runs 4:45....i see there are some 45's on ebay with black lettering.....i'm trying to buy the 3:36 45 and was wondering if the black lettering one runs 3:36.......can anyone tell me what there 45 runs and what color lettering is on it.... Edited by edtop40
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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 2013 at 4:12pm
	jim emailed me a says his 45 has the black lettering....can anyone else tell me the lettering of their 45? Edited by edtop40
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Plastic Steel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 February 2016 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Plastic Steel Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 September 2016 at 8:42pm
	My stock 45, which is Gordy 7129F, has black lettering. The matrix number is G7129F-62151-07A with a circled "2" after it. The label states 4:45 and it basically runs that length (I'd say more like 4:46ish, but hey). Its title is just "Plastic Man," with no "The." To create this version -- which evidently is the long single edit -- from the LP version on Masterpiece, simply remove 3:52.4 to 5:01.3 (edit on "man") and maybe fade out a few seconds early.