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    Posted: 09 November 2010 at 5:03pm
Hey all,

so I just received the newly released Monster Mash/Scary Tales 2-on-1 CD, and have some questions about Dinner with Drac. i have an old Ronco vinyl record called "Funny Bones" that features this song, but what makes it different than any appearance on CD so far is that there's actually a 'monster noise' intro before the guitar kicks in (think the intro to Monster Mash). I thought that i might finally get that version on CD with this release, but instead I found that while Dinner with Drac part 1 runs 3 minutes and 7 seconds, closer to the version I have on vinyl, it STILL doesn't have the monster noise intro! I assume it's the same version as previously released versions on the Cameo reissues, perhaps slowed down, which would explain the longer time? But the real question is, WHERE does the version I have on vinyl originate from??? Was this ever released back in the day, or is it possible this Ronco record actually added those sound effects??? Any help solving this mystery would be greatly appreciated.
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Believe it or not, I have the "intro" version on a mid-90s Japanese comp called... I forgot what. Philly something. It's all Cameo-Parkway tracks, mostly rarer ones. It seems to be from a tape source, but the sound isn't nearly as good as on the recent ABKCO discs. I once tried to splice the intro onto the newer remaster, with so-so results.

At any rate, not sure where the intro originates from, only that it is not on the original 45.
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Thanks Brian. Glad to know that this mysterious version has indeed turned up somewhere else. I'm hoping someone has the ORIGINAL John Zacherle vinyl LP who could comment on whether the intro is part of the 'album version' and maybe the CD reissue just used the single master as a source.
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I don't have the original Zacherle LP, but do have the "monster intro" version on two other '70s compilation LPs. One is K-tel's 1976 Looney Tunes collection.

The other is on the Abkco label proper, the 1972 various artists Rock-O-Rama Vol. II double-LP, with Zacherle misspelled as "Zacherly" on the cover, but not on the label itself.
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I wonder if that sound effect was added somewhere in the 70s when there was a wave of 'oldies but goodies' compilations, especially since Pickett's Monster Mash, which manages to regain interest every few years, has always been the more well known of these two songs and begins with that type of sound effect.
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I just checked our copy of Zacherle's "Monster Mash" album from 1962 (on Parkway 7018 - peaked at #44 in Billboard) and "Dinner With Drac" starts off with the monster sound effects. Not only that, EVERY cut on the album starts off with some kind of "scary" sound effects! Looks like this mystery is solved.
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Yay and ARGH all at once! That means they did NOT use the LP master to release this album on CD! Thanks for the info Paul.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Ireland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 December 2010 at 9:31pm
So should all existing database CD entries of John "The Cool Ghoul" Zacherle's "Dinner with Drac Part 1" have a "45 version" comment then? Or should no comment apply here since the LP version with the monster sound effect intro didn't come out until 1962, four years after the single hit the charts?

And, Paul, is your Zacherle Monster Mash LP in stereo or mono?
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