George Michael - Freedom ’90

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   Hi folks-

I'm trying to cut the ~6:20 album version of this song down to the single version, which was around 5 minutes, if I recall correctly. 

I checked my 12" single, and it has the "Back to Life" remix, plus the LP version, I think.  His greatest hits album "Ladies and Gentlemen" has the long LP version.  Anyone know where the edits might go?

Thanks - Eric

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eric_a Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote eric_a Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: George Michael - Freedom ’90 Posted: 20 March 2006 at 4:22pm
	Hi folks- I'm trying to cut the ~6:20 album version of this song down to the single version, which was around 5 minutes, if I recall correctly. I checked my 12" single, and it has the "Back to Life" remix, plus the LP version, I think. His greatest hits album "Ladies and Gentlemen" has the long LP version. Anyone know where the edits might go? Thanks - Eric

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2006 at 5:59pm
	No, the single version was the full-length album version. There was a radio edit, which I have on the promo, which I THINK ran around five minutes, but I'll have to check that out when I get home. Unless the cassette single was different from the CD single...

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2006 at 6:11pm
	brian is correct........the cassingle version issued as columbia 73559 was the lp/cd version and ran 6:28 in length.........there is a promo cd single that contains a radio edit which runs 5:17..........do you need an mp3 of either???
	edtop40

eric_a Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote eric_a Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 March 2006 at 11:21pm
	FYI - if you want to make your own edit, here are the cuts. -Start on the downbeat at 0:08, removing the beginning of the intro -Cut from 0:41.4 (right before the piano run on beat 4) to beat 4 at around 0:51.8. -Cut from 2:16.2 ("yeah-yeah") to 2:26.7 ("Freedom"), removing the first half of the chorus. -Cut from 4.30, around beat 2, to 4.40, removing 4 bars -Cut from 5.06 to 5.16, removing a few "That's what you get" lines -Cut from 5.24.6 ("baby") to 5.45.5 ("Freedom"). This is actually a crossfade, but a straight cut right after the downbeat will sound close. The original fade is preserved on the single.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 March 2006 at 3:33pm
	Whew! It'd probably be easier just to buy the promo single! ;)

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 February 2011 at 7:57am
	after reviewing this track again....the edit version which i stated ran 5:17 actually runs 5:20.....sorry for the error....this s/b updated in the db....
	edtop40

elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2017 at 10:29pm
	This is one track which I believe suffers from any form of editing, but if I had to choose, the UK edit (4:30) is a lot smoother than the US edit which was edited by Mike Corbett who worked on other edits for Sony like Mariah Carey's "I Don't Wanna Cry" or "Make It Happen" with some pretty abrupt edit points, cringe.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2017 at 11:25pm
	Funny, I've always liked the US edit. I know both versions quite well, and the "Edit" on the promo CD has always sounded seamless to me.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2017 at 12:08am
	You know how I hold you in high regard, so just listened to the US edit again, I agree with you that edit points are seamless up to 4:34, that crossfade kills it for me, it is really noticeable and sounds harsh right between "do not make a man" and "freedooom". And structurally, it kind of spoils the climb to the final chorus by chopping off that section. But he did gain 30 seconds off. Maybe I would have edited some of the chorus sections along the track as was done in the UK edit which incidentally runs almost one minute shorter and doesn't chop off the verse removed at 4:34 on the US edit.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2017 at 10:12am
	Huh, I just listened again specifically to the 4:34 edit/crossfade, and it's smooth and seamless to my ears. I didn't even realize it was an edit until I went back and listened to the LP version in that same spot.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop