Ariel - Dean Friedman

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   There has been a lot of chat on other sites regarding the 45 of "Ariel" by Dean Friedman.  Seems as though there are claims but no proof that this 45 was issued in a form longer than 3:22 (the length of my dj and commercial 45).  There is also some discussion of the lyrics being changed on the 45 about 1 minute into the song from "she was a Jewish girl" to "her name was Ariel".  Both my dj and commercial 45 have the line "her name was Ariel" so my question is does anyone have either a longer 45 or a 45 with the line "she was a Jewish girl"?

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Moderator Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 10 July 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moderator Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Ariel - Dean Friedman Posted: 26 October 2004 at 6:46pm
	There has been a lot of chat on other sites regarding the 45 of "Ariel" by Dean Friedman. Seems as though there are claims but no proof that this 45 was issued in a form longer than 3:22 (the length of my dj and commercial 45). There is also some discussion of the lyrics being changed on the 45 about 1 minute into the song from "she was a Jewish girl" to "her name was Ariel". Both my dj and commercial 45 have the line "her name was Ariel" so my question is does anyone have either a longer 45 or a 45 with the line "she was a Jewish girl"?
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Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 February 2005 at 12:23am
	Pat: I know you posted your question about "Ariel" a long time ago, but I came across some information from Dean Friedman himself that you might find helpful! The following can be found on the FAQ section of his official website at www.deanfriedman.com: Q. Are there two different versions of Ariel? A. Yes. My first label insisted that I edit and change the second verse to Ariel, in which I refer to her as "...a Jewish girl". They were convinced that radio stations in the south would use it as an excuse not to play the record. (In fact, many stations in the south insisted on playing the full length version which included 'Jewish girl'.) Also, the entire third verse was edited out of the single version to make it shorter for radio. I fought to keep the original version intact on the album which is why the single version is different than the album. One of my biggest record biz regrets is that I let them do it. (Not that I had a lot of say over the matter as this was my very first release.) In fact, when the single was released my management company received threats from the JDL (Jewish Defense League) protesting the edit. While I was never a fan of Mayer Kahane, now deceased leader of the JDL, in this instance, they were 100% correct.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 February 2005 at 12:39am
	Dean also has a link on his website where you can e-mail him directly and ask him questions about his recordings. If anyone would know for certain if a 45 was ever issued with the "she was a Jewish girl" lyric, I would think he does!

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 March 2005 at 9:13am
	I sent Dean an email regarding the possibility of there being 2 different 45 versions of the song "Ariel" several weeks ago and have received no reply.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 93	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 June 2007 at 6:00pm
	Hello all, New member here, so I'm going back through all the posts to see where I can contribute. I ordered a copy of the 45 for Ariel about a year ago and it is different than the digital versions available, definitely shorter.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 214	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 June 2007 at 10:05pm
	Is it shorter than the single version on the Varese Sarabande CD? And what is the length?

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 93	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2007 at 4:46am
	I did a vinyl dub to mp3. It is a fade and times out at 3:19.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 93	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2007 at 4:51am
	Added: My turntable is a belt driven, so the 3:22 time listed by Moderator is probably correct. I'm not familiar with the Varese version.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 214	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2007 at 8:21am
	Eriejwg, it sounds like the 45 you bought (shorter than the LP version) is the regular 45 with the edits and the substitute line.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 93	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 June 2007 at 6:00pm
	Yes, it is a stock 45 I believe. Oh, and has the lyric edits mentioned previously. Edited by eriejwg