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abagon ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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TOTO - "Africa"
The actual 45 running time is (4:14), the listed time is "4:23" on the record label. (Columbia 38-03335) |
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VWestlife ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 02 April 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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The version that is on "Now That's What I Call Yacht Rock" is an incorrect edit. The correct 45 version starts with the synthesizers and fades out on the second bass riff, while this version starts with 10 seconds of the drums and cowbell and fades out on the first bass riff.
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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That sounds like the same version that's on the 2-Disc version of "The Essential Toto" that I have. |
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Dan In Philly
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AutumnAarilyn ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 22 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Is that double disc the European import, Dan?
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Yes, it's the UK version. I just listened to it and I think it may be an early fade of the Album Version, but not sure. The music fades
out at about 4:21 on it. |
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Dan In Philly
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EternalStatic ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 September 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Happy Sunday! The incorrect 45 version, as featured on the UK 2-disc
‘Essential Toto’ is an early fade of the album version. I’ve checked it before. Basically, if you could lop the percussion-and-drums-only intro off and extend the song by that length, you would have the correct 45 version. I am not sure if what we’re calling the “incorrect” 45 edit was possibly a UK 45 version or just a goof. Edited by EternalStatic |
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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I also thought it might be a UK 45 version, but none of the Discogs listings for the UK 45 show a running time on the label, although Discogs itself
lists the running time as 3:54 on a few of them. Either that or maybe it was someone's attempt to recreate the 45 version. (Maybe they saw the 4:23 run time on the US 45 and just faded it themselves?). It's interesting that this version runs closer to the stated run time of 4:23 on the US 45 than the actual US 45 itself. |
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Dan In Philly
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David Pro ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 10 August 2020 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Is the 4:22 version as featured on
the Rhino CD Billboard Top Hits: 1983 the correct 45 version? |
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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If it actually runs about 4:14 and begins with synthesizers, it is most likely the correct 45 version. |
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Dan In Philly
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"Africa" is Toto's only #1 single, and the third single from Toto IV, following "Rosanna" (a hit) and "Make Believe" (not really). The song is built around a Jeff Porcaro drum loop. There's a small amount of tempo drift in the tape loop as the song progresses, so that the whole song slows down by 0.3% or 0.4% from beginning to end. It's not a big deal, but it will throw off your BPM calculations if you're being super-precise or you're trying to beat-match for extended parts of the song. LP version (4:56) It begins with 16 beats of drums, the rest of the instruments kick in around 0:11, and it has a very long fade. The oldest CD I have for the LP version (and it may be one of the oldest CDs ever produced anywhere) is a promotional disc called CBS Records Compact Disc Demonstration (1983). It sounds superb here, with a lot of high end, maybe even too much. But this disc is extremely rare and really expensive. The same analog transfer is used on:
Finally, I have a new analog transfer on Toto's best-of Past To Present 1977-1990 (1990), where it sounds great. The same analog transfer is used on:
45 version (4:14, according to the database) The 45 deletes the first 16 beats of drums and begins on downbeat. It also fades early to a length of 4:14. The oldest CD I have with the 45 edit is Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1983 (1992), where it sounds spectacular. I suspect that Bill Inglot used the two-track mixdown tapes for the LP version and reproduced the edit, because it runs about four seconds longer than the actual 45. The same analog transfer is used on:
One outlier: Madacy's Rock On 1983 Vol. 2 (2005) is not based on any of the above masterings. It doesn't sound as good as the Billboard disc. My recommendations For the LP version, I like Toto's best-of Past To Present 1977-1990 (1990). For the 45 version, I like Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1983 (1992). Truth be told, the only versions that didn't sound great were the TM Century and A-List discs. |
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