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    Posted: 25 March 2006 at 1:32pm
a few notes regarding some differences in journey's top 40 songs

first.......the song "lovin', touchin', squeezin'" runs 3:38 on my 45 issued as columbia 11036......it is not just an early fade of the 3:50 greatest hits cd version as listed in the database......the cd "the rockin' 70's" contains the correct 45 version and IS NOT 0:05 shorter as mentioned in the database.........the only difference between the 3:50 greatest hits version and the 45 version is one of the chorus loops at the end is edited out....both songs end cold and are NOT faded out at all.....

second....the song "seperate ways (worlds apart)" as issued on the 45 columbia 03513 is available on cd in it's 4:26 length.........the cd "gold & platinum" issued as realm records 7679 in 1986 contains the correct 4:26 45 version........

third.........the song "after the fall" issued in 1983 as columbia 04004 and running 4:20 is available on the cd soundtrack of "risky business" issued as an import and originally issued 1984 on virgin 098620

fourth....the song "suzanne" issued in 1986 as columbia 06134 actually runs 3:47 and is 0:10 LONGER than the version from the cd "raised on radio".....similiar to the song "i'll be alright without you" the 45 runs LONGER than their cd/lp counterparts...........

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My commercial copy of "Lovin', Touchin' Squeezin'" Columbia 11036 matrix #ZSS 166234 - 1E runs 3:44 and is not the version found on "The Rock 'n 70s" cd. On that cd, the vocals go accapella at 3:30 - not so on my commercial 45 which fades with full instrumentation.
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My 45 is the fade version as well. Must be another case of different versions on different pressings...
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yup....looks like there are 2 versions of this song on 45.....my matrix number is "zss - 166234 - 2c"
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Ed notes that the 45 version of "I'll Be Alright..." runs longer on the 45 than CD versions, which the database has noted as (4:33 - 45 version faded :10 early). Can the (4:50) LP version be used to add the missing 10 seconds?
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To aaronk:

The 45 of "I'll Be Alright Without You" is a remix/edit of the LP version.

45 is labeled "Hot Mix" and features a Fender Rhoades piano literally drowning in reverb where on the LP mix it is drier.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2007 at 6:59pm
time to dredge up this old journey thread......does anyone know if the two 45's mentioned above "suzanne" and "i'll be alright without you" can be extended to requisite 0:10 to match their 45's......for some reason the song "suzanne" is the same on the 45 and on the cd "raised on radio" except the 45 has the song slowly faded out with 0:10 of instrumention......same with the song "i'll be alright without you"....the 45 for "i'll be alright without you" states on the label "hot mix" and is also noted "re-mixed by: steve thompson and michael barbiero at media sound, nyc"......
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2007 at 7:08pm
ok...does anyone have the below import journey cds where MAYBE they have the correct 4:50 remix version of "i'll be alright without you"

The Journey Continues
2001 CD Sony International 2416
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2002 CD SME 2417

The Ballads [Japan]
2006 CD Sony Japan 947
1991 CD Sony Japan 947


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Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

yup....looks like there are 2 versions of this song on 45.....my matrix number is "zss - 166234 - 2c"


Sorry to dredge up this thread again.

What needs to be edited out of the Greatest Hits version to make the shorter 45? And is the longer 45 just a simple fade or it is also edited?
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Guys, both my commercial 45, and one side of my promo 45, have a listed (4:45), actual (4:42) "Hot Mix". The other side of my promo 45 has the listed & actual (4:50) "Album Version". Ed, to comment on your earlier inquiry about a (4:50) "Remix", I am of the opinion that all (4:50) versions are the LP Version, and that any remixes are limited to the actual (4:42) "Hot Mix".
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