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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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There's only one version of the song. This thread is just a place to document some mastering notes.
The song has a live drummer playing to a click track. There's no drift throughout the song, so a convenient way to reference the various masterings is by tempo in BPM. (I use a free program called MixMeister BPM Analyzer, but virtually all DJ software will give you a BPM value.) The first place the song appeared on CD was likely the 1984 Japanese reissue of the Freeze-Frame album. I don't have that CD, and I'll assume that you don't either. We'll ignore it. The first (practical) place the song appeared on CD was EMI America's J. Geils Band Flashback - The Best Of (1985). The levels are a bit low (over 4 dB of headroom), and there's a slight desynchronization between left and right channels. It runs 114.5 BPM here. The same analog transfer is used on:
I always seem to end up voting for a Rhino disc, and Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1982 (1992) is no exception. It sounds great here. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I always agree with Ron, nothing sounds better than those 1980's Billboard Top Hits series from Rhino.
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kaqueno ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 November 2021 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Ron: excellent description of this single hit.
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Marcelo - Argentina
https://www.mixcloud.com/marcelo-guzman4/ - https://www.discogs.com/user/kaqueno/collection |
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davidlg1971 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 August 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thank you for the thorough analysis, as always. I've been slowly buying (in some cases, re-buying) VA compilations over the last couple of years. Especially Rhino's various 70s/80s/R&B comps. Anyway, yesterday 3 comps arrived in the mail, one of which was...you guessed it, Billboard Top Hits 1982. |
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mjb50 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 April 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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Re: Freeze Frame in the US, looking thru Discogs, it seems the first US issue had a Japan-made disc, and it's of unknown vintage. (This is not the 1984 Japan-market release you mentioned).
Then the next pressing accounted for in Discogs is the CAPITOL JAX disc with DADC mastering (it has a DIDX code), and is said to be from 1990 (as is an internationally distributed pressing with a UK-made disc). But the DIDX code in the 200s on those two indicates the digital master they were using was added to DADC's library in 1985. It is possible there really was no fully US-made pressing until 1990, but this being such a popular title, I'm inclined to believe there's a 1985 pressing by DADC that's just not in the database yet. As for the dates entered, "1990" CD release dates added on Discogs have always been kind of a scourge, often copied from Amazon or Wikipedia without any verification, and against Discogs rules. For the two "1990" US CDs of Freeze Frame, those dates were added pretty recently, without sources mentioned, probably by someone who didn't know what they were doing. So I would take them with a grain of salt. They are possibly correct (it was indeed an era where CAPITOL JAX discs used DADC masters), but the CAPITOL JAX one could be as old as 1987 (or even late '86 when that plant opened), and the UK one likewise could be '86 at the earliest. Edited by mjb50 |
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Kevin711 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 15 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thanks for the information on this. I just ordered a copy
of the Rhino disc from an Amazon seller I've dealt with many times. |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I'd always assumed, listening to the radio, that there were two releases of this song: one with a fade, the other ending cold with the whistling.
Only later did I realize the radio stations and DJs were just fading it out on their own when the band levels started to drop in the song... |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I highly recommend you purchase the entire 1980-1989 Rhino Billboard series, however some versions like Toy Soldiers do not match the "hit version" so lookup Ron's analysis before you buy. For reference here is the Toy Soldiers thread http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=160& KW=toy+soldiers Edited by PopArchivist |
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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There is a "box set" of the Rhino Billboard discs covering
1980-1984 that pops up on used sites from time to time. Usually goes for a reasonable asking price (I got mine used from ebay for around $15 including shipping). Good way to scoop up the best sounding versions of a lot of early 80s hits. |
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