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"Electric Avenue" - Eddy Grant |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Regarding Eddy Grant's "Electric Avenue", Abagon informs me the commercial 45 and LP both have an actual run time of 3:46 (the printed time on both is 3:47). I only pass this along because database CDs containing this song run 3:43-3:48.
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I'd love to hear Ron's review of the various releases of this song. I have eleven copies in my collection, and normally I'd pick the version with the greatest dynamic range.
In this case, I'm wondering if some releases were fed through a compressor and, between the sharp drum hits on the recording and the overshoots of an audio compressor, they ended up with an artificially inflated dynamic range. I've also noticed some speed differences, and I don't have a speed-accurate dub of the 45 to compare. Many of these are close enough that I suspect they are clones, perhaps just differently EQ'd. Maybe it's just because it's three in the morning, but I'm having a terrible time sorting out the version from the lowest resolution master tape with the highest dynamic range. |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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My go to version is the same as Ron's, the 1983 Billboard Top Hits from Rhino Gene.
I've listened to the others and have to concur with Ron. |
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mjb50 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 April 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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Based on people playing the 45 on YouTube, the fade should end during a "whoa" about 7.3s after the downbeat with the vocal "Brix-ton-ah". I can't say for sure if the speed is accurate on any of those rips.
What I can say is there are differences in tape speed and where the fade ends on the four CD masterings I have: Killer on the Rampage album (2008 EU deluxe CD) = DR 13, 3:45.7, fade ends in correct spot. Billboard Top Hits - 1983 = 0.5% slower than album, DR 13, 3:46.9, fade ends in correct spot. Like, Omigod! = slightly louder/lightly clipped digital clone of what's on Billboard Top Hits - 1983, DR 12. Laser Rock = 0.7% slower than album, DR 15 but has phase issues, 3:45.0, fade ends 2.3s early (5.0s after start of "Brix-ton-ah"). I agree, the Billboard Top Hits - 1983 mastering is the best. Its waveform is inverted as compared to the others, but that should be harmless. Looking forward to Ron's notes and if anyone has an accurate time from the actual 45. |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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The oldest CD with "Electric Avenue" is likely Realistic's Laser Rock (1984), which was released through Radio Shack. It sounds all kinds of terrible here, with seemingly high-generation source tapes. It runs about 6 beats shorter than the 45. It also runs at 121.05 BPM, in case you need that particular number. Avoid.
There's a better analog transfer on Columbia's Seems Like Yesterday Vol. 4 (1990). It's a little muffled-sounding, but it runs the full length of the 45. It runs at 121.42 BPM. There's a stellar analog transfer on Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1983 (1992). It runs out to the full length of the 45, and runs at 121.35 BPM. The sound quality is terrific: listen to the intro in headphones, and you'll hear the crisp hi-hat, and some nice reverb on the snare. The same analog transfer is used on:
My recommendation Go with Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1983 (1992). It's cheap, and it sounds great. |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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This was exactly what I needed; thank you so much!!
There wasn't a version that I had that you didn't list. This allowed me to quickly knock my choices down to the Rhino version vs. Razor & Tie's version. While I agree with you that the Rhino version is brighter and crisper, to me the eq on the Razor & Tie version sounds a little more "natural" to me, a little smoother. Additionally, the dynamics are a little more "controlled" on the Rhino / Billboard disc. It's not digitally limited exactly, but maybe slightly more dynamics compression? The Razor & Tie version gives you a db or 2 more of dynamic range. To the credit of the Rhino version, it is clearly a more recent transfer, using more modern A/D converters. The Rhino version is also better centered compared to the Razor & Tie version. I'm sure not getting rid of my Rhino version... but for now I'm going to try the Totally '80s version on the air. Thank you so much again for your expert research and advice!! |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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does anyone know if the first version of 'Electric Avenue'
which MTV played often in 1983 was ever issued on cd? I don't remember the specifics but I remember that there was a different version at first. Maybe it was the video edit? Edited by edtop40 |
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